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All very good posts in here. 👍
I can't see MacTavish in the minors at all. He's too good. No problem starting him off on a wing, but I hope is camp is so strong, they just make him 2C to start off with Lundy 3C.
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21 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
This is not a terrible lineup, and the depth chart they have listed looks reasonable.
would rather see:
Henrique - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - MacTavish - Strome
Silfverberg - Lundestrom - Carrick (shut down line than can score 35-40 goals)
Comtois - Grant - Jones Comtois know more for hitting now than goal scoring. Jones creates some energy also.
Really like the top two lines for scoring.-
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18 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
Please remind me what's left from Rakell trade? Where is Aston-Reese? Where is Dominic Simon? Only late 2nd round pick, which most likely won't make to NHL. So, realistically we traded him for nothing.
Have to give PV a credit though for signing Klinberg to 1 year contract. I didn't expect it to happen. I wonder what was Klinsberg motivation to come here? High state taxes, losing team that won't make playoffs, and only 1 year? Next summer to look for a job again? I wonder what's his agent told him.
also rec'd G Clang.
Play his ass off to get a better contract next time in a better market for him. On ANA, he will get every opportunity to show his skills, and then possibly be traded to Cup contender at end. -
11 minutes ago, JiggyToTheCup said:
we weren't going to sign him to the deal he got in PITT. So we got a 2nd for nothing.
and G Calle Clang, whom many are very high on
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CapFriendly@CapFriendly· 13mD John Klingberg #Ducks #FlyTogether Confirmed Breakdown: 2022-23: $7M all base salary Includes a full no trade clause from now until January 1st, 2023, then turns into a 10 team no trade clause until the end of the season. -
5 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
Please remind me what's left from Rakell trade? Where is Aston-Reese? Where is Dominic Simon? Only late 2nd round pick, which most likely won't make to NHL. So, realistically we traded him for nothing.
Have to give PV a credit though for signing Klinberg to 1 year contract. I didn't expect it to happen. I wonder what was Klinsberg motivation to come here? High state taxes, losing team that won't make playoffs, and only 1 year? Next summer to look for a job again? I wonder what's his agent told him.
we weren't going to sign him to the deal he got in PITT. So we got a 2nd for nothing.
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CapFriendly@CapFriendly· 13mD John Klingberg #Ducks #FlyTogether Confirmed Breakdown: 2022-23: $7M all base salary Includes a full no trade clause from now until January 1st, 2023, then turns into a 10 team no trade clause until the end of the season.
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Just saw and really like VerBeast
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58 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
The theory is that Klingberg would probably have liked to sign long-term (this is almost certainly true) and ideally would have like to sign with a contender (this is complete speculation). The problem is that none of the contenders had cap room or a need for a one-dimensional offensive RD, so they didn't want to sign him at all. And none of the bad teams want to lock up cap flexibility for a player soon to be in his 30s while they're rebuilding. So a long-term deal was off the table. But chances are that a playoff team is going to need a player like him at some point this season. Maybe someone gets hurt or maybe one of the guys they counted on underperforms.
That's where the Ducks come in. The rules say that they can retain up to 50% of a player's salary when making a deal. So a contending team that doesn't have $7 million in cap space but DOES have $3.5 million could make that trade. The Ducks pay half his salary and send Klingberg to, say, the Edmonton Oilers at the deadline. In return, the Oilers send back a 1st round pick (if we're lucky) or a prospect of some kind. The Ducks get what they REALLY want (another long-term future asset for the rebuild) and the Oilers get a player at half price for a playoff run.
As I said, I would make that deal tomorrow if it would fly, since it would give a contending team a nice piece for the whole season instead of just for two months, the Ducks reach the salary floor, and the team probably gets a higher draft pick. But the NHL would rightly call shenanigans and the deal would get nixed faster than you can say "Dadonov." And it might not be wise on the Ducks part either, since the list of suitors might not be long right now.
at the deadline, those numbers will be much lower. Would be 50% of what is still owed.
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33 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
One year, $7 million per the current reports. Great, short-term deal. Nice work, McBeek. Two questions I have:
1. How soon can the Ducks flip him at 50% retained without drawing the attention of the NHL and/or NHLPA? Honestly, if they turned around and traded him tomorrow with 50% retained, I'd be all for it. We know that's not going to happen, but I'm curious what the deadline is for the NHL not to investigate it.
2. Why wouldn't the Stars re-sign him? They've got plenty of cap room, they need another top-4 RD...this doesn't make a lot of sense unless he truly wore out his welcome there and the Stars just want to move on. Or maybe he would only accept a long-term deal from them and they're already worried about their aging roster. But I don't get why they wouldn't have done a short-term deal like this.
Or maybe he wanted out of Dallas....
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On 7/27/2022 at 8:58 AM, FanSince1993 said:
Geez, you are sensitive, dah? Can't handle an alternate opinion? I have a constructive criticism, and if you don't like it, don't read my comments. This team have been bad for 5 years, and some people on this forum suggest to wait another 2-3 years before we'll become "competitive". But where is guarantee that 2-3 years from now Terry or Zegras won't request a trade and Ducks will need to start all over again?
When I criticize player(s) or management, I hope that somebody from Ducks organization reads my comments and does something to improve this team.
The problem is you have a complete lack of not understanding how a championship team is built. Verbeek has spent 16 years learning the craft under two very good GM's. He's really earned the right to be respected from Day 1 probably more than any first time GM hire in the history of the league.
You want to make moves ASAP for the sake of making moves. Worst strategy possible. Kings did that for decades in their early years.
PV exercised extreme patience because he knows what he's doing with the Klingberg signing today. Could not have gotten him for 1 yr 7mil, when FA opened. He understands to a great degree how to work the market place.
This signing is so good on so many levels.
1. If he signs a really good F, and he's says he is looking to do so, then the Ducks have a good shot at being in the playoffs this year.
2. If he doesn't sign that F, probably due to the market place not being a good fit for the Ducks at this time, then maybe he flips Klingberg at deadline for a prospect and a pick. The accumulation of picks he's done and I'm sure will keep doing allows a team to be a consistent playoff team. Allows a team to build. Allows a team to trade for what's needed to make those pushes when the time is right.
3. This trade allows O.Z. another year to develop without being rushed. History has shown D men need time to develop.
4, This takes some pressure off of Drysdale and will allow him to focus more on development than being on #1 pair.
We all want the Ducks to be a playoff team asap, but it's more important to do it right.
Verbeek has NAILED every move so far. Worst case right now is that the team will be a very fun to watch, .500 team.-
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49 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
Hey, we got a good player and the term is wonderful. I'm totally good with this!
Yeah, this didn't improve the defense, although with Dallas "left-wing unlock" Eakins behind the bench, it's not like that is ever going to be a strength.
What are our d-pairings at this point?
Fowler-Klingberg
Vaakainen-Shattenkirk
White/Benoit - Drysdale
That's my best guess in putting a smaller PMD with a more defensive player. I think our best hope is that the offense can score four goals every game. Then there will be a small chance to win.
flip shatt and Drysdale...
Great move. If the Ducks are still 10th from bottom, Klingberg gets flipped for prospect and a pick.
If PV signs a solid F, a chance at the playoffs.
Also allows O.Z. another year to develop and not be rushed.-
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2 hours ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I feel like I've answered this a bunch, and I'm stealing from Bombay's as well who has said this a number of times: the Ducks will learn a LOT over the next two years about what they have in their highly ranked farm system. Right now they have a ton of potential. Who's going to take that next step? Will Zellweger follow up his fantastic year with continued development? Will McTavish show that he can be a play-driver at the NHL level? Will any of their myriad young wingers (Comtois, Jones, Tracey, Perreault, Pastujov, etc.) show that they are going to be legitimate top-6 NHL forwards? Which of their B-/C+ level defense prospects will move forward in the organization? Where are they going to pick in the '23 draft and what kind of prospect will it get them? These are all very key pieces of information that will inform how they move forward.
I think next offseason they're going to have to start taking those steps to respectability. I think it starts with making a move behind the bench - hopefully getting a good NHL coach, but if not, at least committing to the Eakins experience long-term (God, I hope not). That happens after next season.
I think they're going to want the kids to get those competitive juices flowing with at least a hope of sneaking into the postseason in 23-24. Realistically, 24-25 is the year for competing, but I think they're going to want to take a step. I don't think there's a way to make it happen this year without spending dumb money on contracts that will hamper them in the future. So that means acquiring long-term pieces next offseason and/or the one after.
The Ducks are most likely going to need to bring in one d-man from outside the organization who can be a top-4 guy (maybe even top-2). In two years, they'll have Fowler, Drysdale, Zellweger, and a then you hope that two of their long list of current 19 - 21-year-olds pan out to provide minutes. Maybe Helleson, maybe Thrun, maybe Moore, maybe Andersson. They'll either need to sign or trade for a veteran who can either play 20+minutes alongside one of the kids. I don't like Klingberg because I think there's too much risk he goes south in three years and while the Ducks desperately need scoring from the blueline, they also desperately need physicality, and the top kids in the system (Drysdale and Zellweger) don't provide it. The kids who theoretically do are all much bigger question marks. I have no idea who will be available in trade, but some names to sign who are UFAs next offseason: Dumba, Sanheim, Severson. The season after: Toews, Hanifin, Skjei. I'm not saying those are all perfect fits, but there are a lot of options that I like better than Klingberg. They'll probably also need to bring in one more bottom pairing guy as a veteran presence, but that's a lot easier to fill.
I want the Ducks to have as many bullets in the chamber as possible (namely, cap space and picks/prospects) as close to the time when they're ready to compete as possible. The more they commit themselves to this offseason, the fewer bullets they'll have. Yes, they'll have a TON of room to add guys in two years, even if they signed someone like Klingberg. I don't care, I want more. I want them to have the ability to overpay guys in a year or two to make sure they come here, and every long-term contract they sign in the meanwhile jeopardizes that ability.
As I've continued to say, I'm fine with any short-term contracts they sign in the next couple months. I'm just not concerned at all about not getting guys. I think it's impossible to parse whether we should or shouldn't have gotten them, and it doesn't matter to this year's results anyway. We'll get a guy or two who can get us to the floor and who can be flipped at the deadline. We'll be fine, albeit a bit of a wreck on the ice.
agree with all of this. I don't think they are going to be awful this year at all. Maybe .500. McTavish is a lot better than most are giving him credit for.
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On 7/24/2022 at 9:17 PM, FanSince1993 said:
In this case, I would like to apply for a job as GM of Anaheim Ducks organization. No significant moves in the off-season, trade good NHL players for 2nd round picks on trade deadline, select some available players on the draft days and once in a blue moon give a short interview to OC Register that "we are committed to build a winning organization". I bet the salary is nice.
It's amazing how ignorant this post is.
Rakell and Lindholm have received deals that make zero sense for the Ducks longterm.
He has signed two players that fit where he wants to take the team. More is needed for sure. He's told us what he's looking for still. He's told us and the players what he expects the players to be.
He has like 16 years learning the job under two very good GM's.
Post after post, you continue to not see anything past your nose. If they haven't made all the grades and FA signings by the end of the day, we see yet another one of these stupid rants.
Maybe he'll get that D-man and the F soon. Even if he does, I think the big push comes next off-season. Terry, Zegras, Drysdale, MacTavis all need another valuable year under them. Look at COL, it takes a few yers for a team to mesh to win it all.
He's doing a great job with what was handed him.
We had 2 1sts this year
1 1st and 3 2nds next year along with 2 3rds
1 st and 2 2nds the year after that.
This is how you build up a team that can win year after year and trade assets when needed to make a push.
Very excited for the Ducks future.-
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On 11/10/2021 at 10:29 PM, DT2008 said:
Yes, it does. Competent management always has a list of who would be coach and GM should a change be required.
who says they don't? I think they hired their guy six months ago myself. That seems pretty competent to me.
On 11/10/2021 at 10:58 PM, Sexlaf15 said:I think the “take until summer” thing is essentially giving Solomon a trial run.
of course. Bob was with the team for a long time. No reason to further rub his nose into the ground right now. And if you listened to Solomon presser today, he's extremely competent and on the same page with all in the organization.
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2 minutes ago, DT2008 said:
Then do it already. Delaying more than a day shows how incompetent team leadership is. Does anyone have Brian Burke’s phone number handy?
no it doesn't.
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16 minutes ago, DT2008 said:
I thought it could not get worse. I was wrong. Now the Samuelis are saying it will take until the summer to name a new GM. Give me a call. I could hire a new GM by this weekend.
come on. It's a respect thing. Bob was GM for 13 years and with the team before that. I'll put up the house they are not going to change from the interim.
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Seems we can change the title of this thread now.
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Why are the links (and the header) back to the Ducks home page missing from the board now? I often went from here to the main site before.
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1 hour ago, Sexlaf15 said:
I don’t think it’s a question of is Vegas good. They definitely are and addressed their biggest need in a bombastic fashion. I think the question is, are they good enough ravaged but injuries to make it though and get healthy, which the answer is, probably.
I don't think so. I was at the game in Vegas last week. Not the same team, especially with Max P out foe awhile. Not a fan of Lehner being a #1 also.
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On 10/16/2021 at 1:32 PM, hoxxey said:
Grant lost every face-off I saw him take. Cleanly.
They should put #22 on waivers as well - his give away in his own zone led to the penalty and the subsequent power play goal they scored... Pathetic.
you missed 40% of his faceoffs? He was 9 of 13 Game 1.
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Have used it w/o any issues for 2+ years now. Any sport. Free.
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This is kinda farfetched, but maybe McTavish stays the entire year and Getzlaf mentors him, in likely his last year. I'm glad he made the team.
I think Gibson is also #5. We will most likely suck again, so wouldn't mind seeing who we could get at the trade deadline if Dostal looks good again this year.
So maybe another high pick cuz we suck, another #1 and a quality prospect or two for Gibby. -
3 hours ago, Jasoaks said:
i thought it was a joke....but nope...Nick Ritchie signed a 2-year contract with Toronto....
from reddit:
This is going to sound like sour grapes from a Boston fan but I don't give a Dehydrated Donkey Dung.
Ritchie is one of the worst players I've seen in a Bruins sweater in a long time. He routinely made me question what it meant to be a Boston fan, he tested my patience and my ability to root for my boys on a routine basis.
I can excuse a lot, that's what sports fandom is, right? It's a place to be biased and petty and stupid in a safe little sandbox of biased petty stupidity. But suck me sideways Thick Dick Nick made it a chore. I can handle guys lacking talent but playing with heart, I can handle a lack of heart in crazy talented guys, I can handle the staggering room temperature milk mediocrity of guys like Lee Stempniak, but Thick Dick Nick is none of those things.
He plays the game like someone trying to egg you on into taking a swing at him. He skates with the urgency of an old lady shopping for canned beats, but with half the speed. His hockey IQ is on par with Brett Favre's. I'm assuming Brett Farve has never played hockey, correct me if I'm wrong. Nick constantly skates around like he's surprised he's at an NHL game and then glides back to the bench (probably from the penalty box for a stick infraction) with the dim look of Lenny from Of Mice and Men. Then he sits there like a melting chocolate Santa, with his hair inexplicably sticking up through the vent in his helmet, waiting to be surprised by his next turn to get on the ice.
Consider this: He scored 15 goals last year, found some dangerous ice as a PP scorer, and Bruins fans were debating if he would be a good 4th liner or not this year, because our 4th line was that fraking bad, and Ritchie was the only skater who could conceivably make it worse. He scored 15 goals for us and we weren't sure if he would be a good replacement for Chris fraking Wagner, the surly hobbit of the TD garden.
Nick Ritchie is a bigger contributor to the decline in cardiovascular health in Boston fans than smoking and obesity. He's the equivalent of a double bacon cheeseburger on your system. He is hockey diarrhea. The guy takes the stupidest retaliatory penalties you've ever seen. He is complete invisible until you need a momentum swing, goes "Got ya boss" and cross checks someone in the neck and bumbles off the ice like Abbott and/or Costello while simultaneously shrugging and bitching to the refs and the guy he blindsided.
I'm sure he's not a bad guy IRL, I don't mean for this to be a character assassination. I'm sure he has family and besides Brett they probably don't suck. This isn't about kicking a player on their way out; let the record reflect that every Boston fan has a few memories of cursing his name and that we started kicking him long before he was down. (See also the general well wishes for Kuraly upon his departure.)
Nick isn't a goon, he's a bad boyfriend. He'll score a couple of goals one week and you'll think he's turned a corner and then he'll hit on one of your friends and tell you to chill out because he's just being friendly. Don't buy the hype, be fraking aware.
I am ecstatic that Ritchie wasn't held onto as a sunk cost, and that Toronto signed him. There you go, that's your analysis.
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Pat Verbeek is the GM of the Ducks
in Anaheim Ducks
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If Robertson is still a RFA, 5 yrs , 8.4m per costs a #1, #2, and a #3. we have 3 #2's and 2 #3's.