saskduckfan Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) Per TSN, Dallas Eakins not getting his contract renewed. Offseason just started and it's already looking good. Edited April 14 by saskduckfan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer_12 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 This was obvious. He seems like a great guy, and I’ll think back on him positively when our 2023 1st round draft pick is playing a big part in our future Stanley Cup contention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasoaks Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) did not waste time. Incredible news. PV is doing well so far! I really hope the players have someone like Scotty or Teemu or PV or someone they can talk through this with. So many of them talked so highly of him (especially TT who gives credit to Eakins for the player he is), and this is a lot of their first times dealing with a "firing" ...I bet a lot of them are shouldering this and feeling responsible for it and I really hope some of our leadership team can talk through that with them. I know a lot don't want him even let in the door at honda center, but I do hope he stays involved in some capacity, just away from the bench!! This is fantastic! EDIT: just saw PV and Henry's comments...does not sound like he's going to be involved with the organization in any capacity. I knew that was a long shot, but understandable for sure Edited April 14 by Jasoaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Attack Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 16 minutes ago, saskduckfan said: Per TSN, Dallas Eakins not getting his contract renewed. Offseason just started and it's already looking good. Yes a good start, but as others have said, PV also owns this debacle in many ways, and I agree. Wonder if the Samuelis have been meeting with other potential GMs? I know I would if in their shoes. Not that I would pull the trigger too fast, but if PV knew this was happening, he’d be more inclined to seek a winning situation with players and staffing over the possibility of cronyism in any future decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazonator Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Let the search begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbachav55 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Ice_Attack said: Yes a good start, but as others have said, PV also owns this debacle in many ways, and I agree. Wonder if the Samuelis have been meeting with other potential GMs? I know I would if in their shoes. Not that I would pull the trigger too fast, but if PV knew this was happening, he’d be more inclined to seek a winning situation with players and staffing over the possibility of cronyism in any future decisions. Is it a debacle? Everyone is excited that we have the best Bedard odds, and that's in no small part thanks to retaining Eakins. If you consider that a positive outcome, then keeping Eakins around was a good move. Also, there's zero chance that Verbeek's job is in jeopardy. That's absurd, unless there's something crazy going on behind the scenes. He's had 15 months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooseDuck Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 No Surprise But to all Its very clear that Ducks GMPV was making Silent Observation of Dallas Eakins during 7 Months he was our Ducks Head Coach. Truly this is Right Move one that is important that Accountability and RESULTS Matter. Thank You Dallas Eakins and Best of Luck in the Future. DuckPride 4ever MooseDuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtsdlaw Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 12 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said: Is it a debacle? Everyone is excited that we have the best Bedard odds, and that's in no small part thanks to retaining Eakins. If you consider that a positive outcome, then keeping Eakins around was a good move. Also, there's zero chance that Verbeek's job is in jeopardy. That's absurd, unless there's something crazy going on behind the scenes. He's had 15 months. https://youtu.be/FPQlXNH36mI 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksun Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Well that was quick, right the next morning...Thanks for a Top-3 pick, Dallas. Reading the article linked below...well he was not much of a great player in his 120 games and not much of a legendary coach. What was Bob thinking, the Edmonton experience should have been a red flag. https://www.nhl.com/news/ducks-head-coach-dallas-eakins-will-not-return/c-343538786 The NHL site was equally brunt: https://www.nhl.com/news/anaheim-fires-head-coach-dallas-eakins/c-343541376 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtsdlaw Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Just now, Aksun said: Well that was quick, right the next morning...Thanks for a Top-3 pick, Dallas. Reading the article linked below...well he was not much of a great player in his 120 games and not much of a legendary coach. What was Bob thinking, the Edmonton experience should have been a red flag. https://www.nhl.com/news/ducks-head-coach-dallas-eakins-will-not-return/c-343538786 The NHL site was equally brunt: https://www.nhl.com/news/anaheim-fires-head-coach-dallas-eakins/c-343541376 I have no real evidence for this, but my speculation is that Teemu had a bigger voice in the hiring process than he should have when Bob was looking for Carlyle's replacement. Teemu has been a big advocate for Eakins throughout his tenure in Anaheim. He's my favorite player of all time, but I have doubts about his ability to provide impartial, objective input when it comes to organizational decisions like coaching and management hires.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilligoos Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Ice_Attack said: Yes a good start, but as others have said, PV also owns this debacle in many ways, and I agree. Wonder if the Samuelis have been meeting with other potential GMs? I know I would if in their shoes. Not that I would pull the trigger too fast, but if PV knew this was happening, he’d be more inclined to seek a winning situation with players and staffing over the possibility of cronyism in any future decisions. Why would they be in meetings with other GMs? Verbeek literally started the job in the second half of last season. And understanding the time it takes to come into a whole new organization, getting to know the corporate and management staff, getting to know the people in your new environment, and then analyzing the roster/prospects/depth, he likely got into a rythm less than 12 months ago. I don't understand this concept that managing an actual sports team is like playing a video game (which I feel like many here make it out to be) -- it takes time to put together a plan that works in the longterm. My opinion of Verbeek starts this summer and not the last 15 months whatsoever. Edited April 14 by gilligoos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DucksFan_08 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 This historically bad season already paying dividends. A guranteed top 3 pick and Eakins gone. Having said that I hope we never have to go through this again. Hoping your team will lose feels very wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aksun Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, dtsdlaw said: I have no real evidence for this, but my speculation is that Teemu had a bigger voice in the hiring process than he should have when Bob was looking for Carlyle's replacement. Teemu has been a big advocate for Eakins throughout his tenure in Anaheim. He's my favorite player of all time, but I have doubts about his ability to provide impartial, objective input when it comes to organizational decisions like coaching and management hires.... And then they doubled down with Niedermayer, the same Selanne and Kariya (?!) to boot providing 'significant input' in hiring Verbeek. This slightly worries me too, if you are in fact correct about Selanne-Eakins link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_mvp Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, dtsdlaw said: I have no real evidence for this, but my speculation is that Teemu had a bigger voice in the hiring process than he should have when Bob was looking for Carlyle's replacement. Teemu has been a big advocate for Eakins throughout his tenure in Anaheim. He's my favorite player of all time, but I have doubts about his ability to provide impartial, objective input when it comes to organizational decisions like coaching and management hires.... That's why I'm calling him Dallas "Jim Jones" Eakins. He got everyone in the organization to drink the kool-aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanSince1993 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Eakins is a good minor-league coach. He'll find a new job in AHL quickly. Nice guy, but it's a tough business, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilligoos Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, FanSince1993 said: Eakins is a good minor-league coach. He'll find a new job in AHL quickly. Nice guy, but it's a tough business, bro. Could be beneficial to fix the Gulls and have him coach there again. He's great with young guys and the developmental aspect of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommer-1 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Good luck to Dallas in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtsdlaw Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 14 minutes ago, gilligoos said: Could be beneficial to fix the Gulls and have him coach there again. He's great with young guys and the developmental aspect of the game. Who did he develop for us in San Diego? He was HC there for four years from 2015-2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommer-1 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 The Ducks (23-47-12), who will finish last in the NHL standings, ended the season with a team-record 13 straight losses (0-11-2). They did not win their first regulation game until defeating the New York Rangers 3-2 at Honda Center on Nov. 23. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilligoos Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 17 minutes ago, dtsdlaw said: Who did he develop for us in San Diego? He was HC there for four years from 2015-2019. I'm looking at his success with both Toronto and San Diego. I wasn't trying to isolate players he developed, moreso that he's a contributing factor to success when he coaches in the minor league and his relationship with young players. The fact he finds success when a young pro is in his "developmental stages" tells me that his mentorship skills and relationship does hold weight (albeit useless in the NHL since he is a horrible bench coach). I was speaking more to the mental development of getting a young player ready to be a pro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbachav55 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, perry_mvp said: That's why I'm calling him Dallas "Jim Jones" Eakins. He got everyone in the organization to drink the kool-aid. I don't think that's fair. Eakins seems like a genuinely good guy - he doesn't strike me as a conman or a snake oil salesman. Perhaps I'm wrong there and really was just mesmerizing everyone with his charms, while he bungled his way around behind the bench. But he just doesn't seem to fit that profile. He was a good guy whose goodness got him a job (and kept him a job) that he probably didn't deserve on other merits. In retrospect, I'm certainly not happy he was the Ducks coach for four years, but if it was going to happen, I'd rather it be to a guy like Eakins than a guy like Babcock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_mvp Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said: I don't think that's fair. Eakins seems like a genuinely good guy - he doesn't strike me as a conman or a snake oil salesman. Perhaps I'm wrong there and really was just mesmerizing everyone with his charms, while he bungled his way around behind the bench. But he just doesn't seem to fit that profile. He was a good guy whose goodness got him a job (and kept him a job) that he probably didn't deserve on other merits. In retrospect, I'm certainly not happy he was the Ducks coach for four years, but if it was going to happen, I'd rather it be to a guy like Eakins than a guy like Babcock. I'm talking from the cult of personality side. How does someone with his record as an NHL HC get to stay employed for 4 years? He's saying what everyone wants to hear but if he was that inspiring as a HC then the Ducks should have been in the playoffs. Because you want to play your best for someone like that. I don't know personally just like everyone else here. Maybe he is a good guy because that's the image that he's projecting. In the end, he's not coaching here anymore so that's a relief but I don't think he's earned a position in the organization. I certainly don't want him coaching in San Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommer-1 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 4 minutes ago, perry_mvp said: I'm talking from the cult of personality side. How does someone with his record as an NHL HC get to stay employed for 4 years? He's saying what everyone wants to hear but if he was that inspiring as a HC then the Ducks should have been in the playoffs. Because you want to play your best for someone like that. I don't know personally just like everyone else here. Maybe he is a good guy because that's the image that he's projecting. In the end, he's not coaching here anymore so that's a relief but I don't think he's earned a position in the organization. I certainly don't want him coaching in San Diego. Throughout history you can find stories of military leaders who were exceptional at inspiring their troops to battle, only to lead them to slaughter. Inspiration is great. You also have to be a tactician. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbachav55 Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 13 minutes ago, perry_mvp said: I'm talking from the cult of personality side. How does someone with his record as an NHL HC get to stay employed for 4 years? He's saying what everyone wants to hear but if he was that inspiring as a HC then the Ducks should have been in the playoffs. Because you want to play your best for someone like that. I don't know personally just like everyone else here. Maybe he is a good guy because that's the image that he's projecting. In the end, he's not coaching here anymore so that's a relief but I don't think he's earned a position in the organization. I certainly don't want him coaching in San Diego. "Cult of personality" to me has connotations that don't seem to fit Eakins. I think it's possible to be a genuinely good person and be given opportunities because people believed that goodness would make a difference. Unfortunately, they don't, and I'm also happy he's no longer our coach. I just don't think he belongs in the same breath as Jim Jones, or people of that ilk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyIzCool Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 If we get fortunate enough to pick Connor Bedard, and win the Cup in the next 5 or so years, he may well be remembered in hindsight as one of the best coaches we've ever had. A direct result being that most agree the Ducks would likely have had at least 10 points more with a different coach, and thus, very little chance at picking first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbarnaby Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 More Duck related firings! Penguins fire general manager Ron Hextall and Brian Burke Anaheim Ducks (with whom he won the Stanley Cup in 2007😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbarnaby Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 (edited) Took a whole four seasons to do this...PATHETIC. Edited April 15 by bufbarnaby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbarnaby Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 22 hours ago, perry_mvp said: I'm talking from the cult of personality side. How does someone with his record as an NHL HC get to stay employed for 4 years? He's saying what everyone wants to hear but if he was that inspiring as a HC then the Ducks should have been in the playoffs. Because you want to play your best for someone like that. I don't know personally just like everyone else here. Maybe he is a good guy because that's the image that he's projecting. In the end, he's not coaching here anymore so that's a relief but I don't think he's earned a position in the organization. I certainly don't want him coaching in San Diego. That clown was HC for FOUR years??? OMG🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbarnaby Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 The last time I went to a watch-party and remember them being fun to watch was like 2015, Freddie was in net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bufbarnaby Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 A day of celebration is in order, Eakins the 🤡 era is OVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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