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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
The Ducks have a hard time attracting UFA's especially good one's and with the Ducks being near the bottom of the league there isn't anything really attractive about Anaheim besides the weather. A wad of cash might be attractive to some UFA's but re-signing Lindholm with a wad of cash would be better. Remember, he's only 27 now and will be 28 by the time he hits the UFA market. It's going to be hard finding someone at his age and level.
My point was that Lindholm for this year doesn't help the Ducks. We need him in three or four years when the team is good again. By that time, the hope is that one of the Ducks' draft picks or current prospects have become a solid 1st pairing defender.
Really, the Ducks just need a new GM who can acquire or retain actually good players. They don't have it right now.
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Lindholm is good, when healthy, and if he'll re-sign, I'm good with that.
The best time to move Manson was at the draft. The next best time is in the next five minutes. And that will continue to be true up until the trade deadline.
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4 hours ago, gotchabari said:
So, Lindholm wouldn't contribute? Where else would we find someone of that level right away?
If Lindholm isn't likely to re-sign, then what does it matter if we find someone of that level right away? With the roster and coaching staff as it currently stands, this is a bottom five team with or without Lindholm. Eichel by himself, without losing anyone significant off the roster, takes this to a team that might compete for a chance to get blown out by Vegas in round 1 of the playoffs. Eichel plus one or two more upgrades could possibly make a difference, but now we're way out there in extremely unlikely hypothetical land.
I'd love to compete this year, but it's so incredibly unlikely that the Ducks do so, they should really look into dealing some of their pending free agents. I'm cool keeping Lindholm if he wants to re-sign, but if the trade deadline comes and there's no deal, the Ducks should see what they can get for him.
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12 minutes ago, gotchabari said:
Because this year has.one of those opportunities on a rare player.
Rebuilding teams don't get rid of everyone. They keep key veterans who have helped, even if they weren't able to carry the team alone. Dumping players because they had low stats on a poor team is shortsighted.
Keeping players who are probably not going to be significant contributors on the next good Ducks team is also shortsighted.
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1 hour ago, yeaitsme said:
He’s not even close to the ballpark though imho. That’s what I’m trying to say! I understand that The market was annihilated when those two signed contracts. If you could give Hampus a contract for what you believe he is worth, what would it be ?
He's not close to what ballpark? If we're comparing him to Nurse and Jones, I take Hampus over Nurse without question and I seriously have to think about whether I want him over Jones or not. He's definitely in the ballpark of those guys. And while I do think those guys are overpaid, they've now set the market. I'd probably give him $7.5 per year for 7 years, but I would go as high as $8 million.
That said, with Nurse and Jones getting what they got, I could see a team giving Lindholm $8.5 - $9, and it won't be ridiculous based on the market.
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28 minutes ago, yeaitsme said:
Exactly this … Why does everyone believe he will ask for that kind of money? The guy hasn’t played a full season, yet alone been able to stay healthy. His offensive numbers are nowhere near anyone making that sort of AAV . Besides his +/- , offensive stats don’t do him any favors.
Anyone who thinks he’s worth ,or deserves money like Nurse are out of their minds . Trade him to the Islanders if he asks for that kind of money.Because guys who are in the same ballpark as he is - Nurse, Jones, etc. - are getting those deals. The offensive numbers are low enough that he might not get quite that much, but I'd be very surprised if he's not offered at least $8 million over 6 years, and that's probably conservative.
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1 hour ago, nieder said:
I still don't get why Mahura would sign an extra year at $750K when his QO next season would be $787.5K. Just to guarantee a one-way deal next season I guess? I am not sure if his next QO would have been one-way or two-way. If that is the reason he signed the extra year then it's some savvy negotiating from Solomon. Super low risk for Anaheim for a guy that could potentially emerge as an NHL regular. If he doesn't then its no big deal, he's cheap.
The more I think about it, the more I like it for the Ducks and I can see how it makes sense for Mahura. He's guaranteeing himself NHL ice time by next season, or at least an NHL payday. The Ducks are telling him that they want to get him integrated into the NHL lineup by next season. And it's super cheap. Now if we could just get Josh an actual coach to teach him better defensive zone positioning, we'd have a solid player on our hands.
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1 hour ago, dtsdlaw said:
Not true. Eichel is a wizard at setting teammates up on the power play. Last season, Fowler, Shattenkirk, Rakell were tied for the team lead with 4 PP assists each. Eichel averages around 17 PP assists per season and had 8 PP assists in just 21 games last season. It's not just his goals. Having Eichel on the power play would make the entire unit better, leading to more goals from the entire unit.
Sorry, I don't buy that he'd have that much impact on this roster with this coaching staff. He'll be a huge improvement, but he won't drag the team to contention all by himself. They might hang in there in a terrible Pacific Division for a while, but they'll still be miles behind Vegas. His real impact will come in later years when kids have developed further and more players are acquired via trade or free agency. And we have a real NHL coach.
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Just now, dtsdlaw said:
The assumption for this thought exercise is that Eichel is a Duck. Would Eichel not improve the power play?
Sure he would, but then you're double-counting in your statement. Eichel will improve the power play, but he's not ALSO going to improve the five-on-five play by 23 goals all by himself. We also have no idea how much he'll improve the power play.
I am on board with getting Eichel as long as we don't trade away any of our core pieces (Zegras, Drysdale, 2022 1st), but I just don't see Buffalo making that deal. I also think that, barring other moves, the team still won't be that good next season even with Eichel. I think there's a chance to be a fringe playoff team in 22-23 if the right moves are made, and maybe more the year after. But this team was abysmal last year (and the year before). It wasn't a fluke. There's a ton of work that needs to be done to the roster beyond adding Eichel. And we still have a terrible head coach.
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58 minutes ago, dtsdlaw said:
242-196 = 46
A competent power play gets you half way there. Eichel easily gets you the other half.
This is begging the question, though. What evidence is there to suggest we'll have a competent power play next season? I'd like to believe that a new assistant coach is all it will take, but we have the same players and the same head coach. And we don't know that our new assistants will be enough to get us to a league average power play.
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21 minutes ago, DucksFan_08 said:
Those are some great contracts. Credit where credit is due. Good job BM.
Whether you want to give Murray or Solomon credit, the Ducks have been really good at getting RFAs signed to reasonable deals throughout BM's tenure.
Of course, the main reason these guys have signed for so little (including Steel and Lundestrom) is that they've all been underwhelming performers, aside from Comtois last season. And that can be laid firmly at the feet of Murray's inability to hire people who can develop these guys and/or use them properly at the NHL level. So, good for you, Murray, for getting the young players signed to reasonable deals. Now let's see them actually play well so we can give you credit for constructing a good roster.
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Sorry for the paywall link, but this is a good summary of my frustration with Murray and the Ducks this offseason (and going back a couple offseasons): https://theathletic.com/2755412/2021/08/06/stephens-with-their-lack-of-offseason-moves-and-clear-communication-what-message-are-the-ducks-sending-to-fans/
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On 8/3/2021 at 4:58 PM, dtsdlaw said:
Nathan MacKinnon is apparently a giant a**hole in the room. Who knew?
Some of that stuff is harsh, but probably for the best (the food stuff). Screaming at your teammates for missing a pass or not moving your stick for a slightly off pass seems beyond the pale to me. He sounds a lot like Kobe Bryant, as well, who was revered for his work ethic and pushed his teammates incredibly hard.
Personally, I think there are better ways to lift your team to greatness, but I'm not an elite athlete on a professional team, so take that for what it's worth (not much). I'm not one for noticing celebrations, but the Avs always seemed more subdued to me, particularly the top line. I wonder if it's because MacKinnon has made sure they're all business on the ice.
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Two of those have term left on their deal as they age into their 30s, which is going to make them relatively undesirable on the trade market. Rico is obviously not in demand since every team had the chance to pick him up for free and declined to do so. Silf is coming off a terrible season where he required significant surgery. I can't see a team offering to take his contract either.
Rakell is probably the only one who has value on the market, but he's also the youngest and most likely to be a significant contributor on the next good Ducks team, assuming he's willing to sign an extension. That said, the Ducks do have plenty of skilled wingers in the system, so trading him makes sense.
On pending UFAs, I'm of the opinion that if you're competing for a playoff spot, you shouldn't automatically trade those guys. Let them play it out with the team and contribute. But if you're in a position like the Ducks are, rebuilding and nowhere near a playoff spot, there really isn't any reason to let those guys walk for nothing. Lindholm likely fetches the most in return of anyone on the roster. If preliminary talks about an extension haven't yielded significant progress, the Ducks should shop him and look to get long-term assets in return. They can't be much worse without him, given how last season went.