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  1. Spencer_12
    I don’t understand all the Drysdale trade talk here. The only RD the Ducks have that has his ceiling is Luneau. The only other RD the Ducks have with any real NHL experience is Gudas. That’s not trading from a position of strength, but ok let’s continue. So the idea is to trade a 21 year old RD with good upside, and then sign a 29 year old RD that hasn’t been all that great in recent seasons playing on a good team as his replacement? I’m sorry, what? I’m not saying we don’t need a good, young scoring winger. However, if you look at our current roster we’ve got Zegras, Terry, McTavish, Killorn, Henrique, Vatrano, and Strome as forwards with the ability to put up some goals/points. That’s not counting Carlsson either. If I’m looking at the two groups - these forwards, and the RD’s the Ducks have - I think it’s pretty obvious the Ducks shouldn’t be subtracting from their RD’s in pursuit of a winger.
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    What’s interesting about Kubalik is he only has 1 year left on his contract. If he doesn’t re-sign with Ottawa and Boston makes the playoffs Ottawa’s return for Debrincat is only going to be a late 1st, and maybe another late 1st if they can trade him for that at the deadline. I wouldn’t be happy with that if I was an Ottawa fan. Good for Detroit to benefit from a player who really wanted to play there based on geography alone.
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    I can’t really call it a missed opportunity when it sounds like Detroit was far and away the #1 option all along. Debrincat held all the cards in this situation. I also don’t like Debrincat on only a 4 year deal, and I’m not sure what the Ducks would have had to give up on their end. Detroit got a good deal, but we don’t have the pieces they gave up.
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    Rumor is he turned down 8x8m from Ottawa, so it sounds to me like he wanted to be in Detroit. That was the reporting leading up to the trade as well. Seems like he left quite a bit of money on the table as well if ANA/NYI were willing to go higher. He’s young enough that 4 years from now he can get another 7 or 8 year deal, perhaps at even higher $ per year with the cap going up. He’s definitely betting on himself. He also got a 16 team NTC as well. So yeah, sounds like he only wanted Detroit. I definitely wouldn’t have wanted him at only a 4 year deal. That doesn’t work with our timeline. Detroit didn’t have to give up a ton to get him, but Kubalik is a good player and that 1st could be good if Boston takes a big step back. If not, Detroit did pretty well since they’ll only be giving up a mid round 1st if Boston barely misses the playoffs, or a late 1st if Boston makes it.
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    That 2nd tweet has always been my feeling. Interesting that others around the league feel the same. I like that Verbeek is holding firm as well. With Gibson coming out and saying basically, “it is what it is” if something isn’t done, I think Anaheim is in a good spot. DeBrusk also officially asked Boston for a trade, but that worked out for both parties when Boston didn’t move him, so it won’t be the worst thing in the world if we don’t move him. Gibson just wants to win, and I think the Ducks are getting closer. This next season will certainly go better than last, and if the Ducks manage to get Debrincat and our defensive prospects look ready, and Carlsson is ready - all big if’s - the Ducks could actually be decent next year.
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    A couple interesting things. 1. “Islanders and Ducks are the only remaining teams.” That’s something if it’s true. I don’t see that being good for Ottawa if they only have two teams to negotiate with, especially if the process drags out. I don’t see the Sens just giving him away because at some point it would make sense to just keep him on a 1 year deal and trade him at the deadline. That’s not great for Ottawa though considering how expensive that 1 year deal would be for them, and at that point the best they are getting is a late 1st. Overall, Anaheim is in a good bargaining position. 2. Debrincat wants 8.7 x 8. Ducks/Islanders are 7.8 x 8. I see this as negotiation not Debrincat unwilling to budge, especially as it drags on. I don’t see him coming off his number too much, but I think eventually 8.25-8.5 would get it done. So now the big thing is the return. I think that’s the biggest issue vs finding an agreeable number with Debrincat. I haven’t seen any recent reporting on what Ottawa hopes to get back for him so it’s hard to say. Zellweger, Mintyukov, Luneau and a lottery protected 1st are nonstarters for me. If they want a 1st then it has to be top 10 protected. I suppose a lottery protected 1st could be ok if that’s the only thing of any real value going to Ottawa. I see us picking top 10 next year, but if you’re only really giving up the #7 overall pick for Debrincat then that’s fine. He’s young enough and you’d be lucky to pick a guy like him at #7. If they want a better prospect (Gaucher or LaCombe) then I give them multiple 2nd rounders and no 1st (or a B grade prospect/roster player instead of a pick if they want to go that way). I’d prefer not to give up Gaucher, he’s the closest to a nonstarter to me because I see him as our #3 center in a few years and Zegras on the wing.
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    I think he probably gets the same contract Dubois just got with the Kings. Maybe slightly less (but still at least 8 million/season) given it seems like he’s not good defensively. I think 2024 top 10 protected 1st, Pastujov, and a 3rd is the most I’d trade. Perhaps a 2nd if Ottawa trades us their 3rd in the same draft. I wouldn’t trade Gaucher because I think he’s got a lot of potential to be a good #3 center on this team. A bargain is something like 2025 protected, one of Jones/Lundestrom/Nesterenko/Vaakanainen, and a 2nd. Either way, with the last tweets posted in this thread it sounds like Friedman is poo-pooing it even if he’s gone from, “not gonna happen” a few days ago to, “well maybe Debrincat could be interested” today.
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    Very interesting. If he’s controlling this whole process only willing to extend with a few select teams, and only a few teams can actually pay him then maybe Anaheim can get a bargain here. Perhaps the Kings set the market for good forwards with only 1 year left. If the Ducks can get him for a top 10 protected 2024 and build a package around picks (2nd’s maybe) or prospects not named Zellweger, Luneau, Mintyukov, and Gaucher then I’m interested. I even wonder if we could get him for a 2025 protected, basically not even starting that process with the 1st rounder until 2025.
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    I think the statement from his agent basically gives Gibson an option to sticking with the Ducks, and Friedman’s account is probably where things stand now. Gibson probably would prefer to move on, but if he can’t move to a better situation and one that makes sense for the Ducks then he’ll stick it out “if it comes to that.”
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    It wasn’t just him/here. I’ve seen it elsewhere too. He’s always the guy mentioned.
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    I find it interesting that Ducks fans have zeroed in on Luneau being the good prospect to include in any deal for an impactful talent. If you don’t count the defensemen drafted this year (2 LD, 1 RD), currently in the system there’s 4 RD’s - Luneau, Helleson, Warren, and Moore. Moore is going into his senior season and could choose not to sign with the Ducks at the end of it. If the Ducks trade Luneau now they could be down to 2 RD’s in the entire system that have some sort of projection, and at the NHL level there’s only Drysdale who you can feel confident about being in the top 6 for years to come. That doesn’t sound all that smart to me, especially given Luneau’s ceiling and the fact that it’s much harder to find right shot defensemen. I don’t want to trade any of our 3 best defensive prospects at the moment, but if you were going to trade one in a package for someone like Nylander, then Zellweger makes the most sense. He’s undersized so there’s more question marks over what kind of complete player he’ll be, he’s got good value right now, and his position is easier to replace.
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    That last tweet’s quote is interesting. I’m sure the driving process to coming here was a huge bag of money too though. But it’s interesting that he was sold a project and isn’t being led to think the Ducks are trying to actually compete this season. Verbeek sort of hints to that in the 1st tweet.
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    Duchene to Dallas for 1 year 3 million. That’s amazing. Looks like he’s chasing a Cup, and picking a good spot to put up a good year to get one more bite of the apple.
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    Not only that, he’s also played on one of the best teams in hockey for a lot of the years he’s produced. A well-coached team that was stacked with good-great forwards and defensemen great at getting the puck up to those forwards. He’s coming to a much different situation in Anaheim.
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    Killorn has produced at the rate Compher did last year 5 out of the last 6 years. Killorn’s floor is probably what Compher has put up the rest of his career. I think there’s more certainty with Killorn, and I like that his deal is 1 year younger. Killorn has also been really good in the playoffs most years (not sure that’s going to matter by the time we’re competing in them due to his age). I think I prefer Killorn.
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    I think he’s basically signed to be replacement for Henrique when he’s eventually traded, either this summer or at the deadline. They are the same age and make nearly the same amount - Henrique has a 5.8 cap hit, and Killorn has a 6.25 one. He’s going to be there to be a veteran influence on the our young players and hopefully contribute a bit as well. It’s not a great signing in terms of $/years, but it won’t negatively affect the future. Hopefully if he ends up sucking he’ll at least have a good effect on the young players.
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    Killorn turns 34 in September so he’s actually 34 for the upcoming season.
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    The Killorn signing is so bad lol. Ducks just bought his age 34-37 seasons at 6.25m per. If he falls off a cliff after leaving Tampa…yikes. At least the Ducks have a ton of cap space and it’s no longer than 4 years. It’s not going to be a crippling contract no matter how bad it may turn out. So that’s something.
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    Too much money, 1 year too long. Doesn’t really matter though, his contract/term won’t affect the Ducks when it comes time to contend and cap space becomes more important. He’ll play a good role in the meantime as our D prospects come up, and can deal with any BS thrown at our younger guys on the ice. So I don’t dislike it overall.
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    Individual grades for each prospect sounds fun: Leo Carlsson - A+ Nico Myatovic - B- Carey Terrance - B Damian Clara - C+ Coulson Pitre - B+ Yegor Sidorov - A Konnor Smith - D Rodwin Dionicio - A- Vojitech Port - A I’d go C- on Myatovic if it didn’t come out that others were going to pick him in the 30s. Terrance and Pitre are close to me, but Pitre gets the edge for having better analytics and more offensive upside. Clara gets a C+ only because he’s a goalie taken in the 2nd round. Like what I’ve heard of him though. I love the Sidorov pick, home run potential there. Smith is the only pick I don’t like. Dionicio is crazy skilled, but it seems like it’s total boom or bust with him. Great pick at that point in the draft though. Port actually seems to have a bit of a floor for someone drafted so late. He’s one of the younger players in the draft and looks to have great skill. Great analytics too. This pick has a lot of potential in it.
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    Scott Wheeler of The Athletic reported in his roundup that several teams were prepared to take him in the 30s. So you can dislike the pick because of who else was available, but he would not have been available later.
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    I think a lot can change over the course of 3 years. I wasn’t really interested in Michkov with Carlsson and Fantilli available though. It would have become a much harder decision if we were picking #5. If he really said absolutely, 100% no way I’ll play for you then I don’t think you’re getting back #5 overall value even if he’s a star in the KHL in 3 years.
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    I’d go somewhere between a B and B+. So maybe 86/100. I absolutely love what we did starting in round 3. I like Pitre (early 3rd) a little more than Terrance (late 2nd - only 6 spots separate the two), though Terrance is 5 months younger and played on a horrible OHL team. I didn’t really want to take a goalie in the 2nd round, but the one we got sounds like he has some huge upside potential. I absolutely love the Sidorov pick (85 overall). The biggest disappointment for me was a few guys I was interested in before the draft who had good upside went just before our picks. This happened 3-4 times. I also wish someone more interesting fell out of the 1st round to us. I would have taken Gauthier at #33 over Myatovic, but time will tell on that one. So those two things keep it from being an A for me.
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    The discourse surrounding Carlsson and his offensive potential from Ducks fans a little underwhelmed at the pick since they were hyped over Fantilli is interesting. Carlsson put up 34 points in 57 regular season + playoff games (9 in 13 playoff games). That comes out to 59 points in an 82 game season. He did that as an 18 year old in the 2nd best league in the world. I think Carlsson has a much higher offensive ceiling than some people are giving him credit for only focusing on his hockey IQ and two-way play. This guy is going to put up points in the NHL.
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    That is surprising. Sprong seems like one of those types that move around a lot and teams don’t really love keeping around, but he can still find a team and have some impact. Kind of like Sonny Milano. In terms of Sprong, I’ve been thinking lately about how that kind of player might be Perreault’s new ceiling if he can get his career back on track in the AHL next year.
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