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15 hours ago, ike8228 said:
Most the threads have blended together and rehashed over and over. Half the time I forgot which thread I’m even in. They degrees to fast and often.
Ike and Anaheim Duck family,
It is not the thread. It is we, the fans, we are fed up. We care more about the team and the game than the organization itself. As a core, I believe they feel the pressure, and their plan is not working. I am as guilty for criticizing the team as anyone, but it is because I spent so much money to travel and cheer for a team that the last few years has not been competitive.
Last year I posted Let’s Hire Rich Tocket (you can look for it up). Look what he is doing for the Canucks with a young team. He is great at holding them accountable. When you look at our bench during the game, the coaches look deflated.
We can all criticize anyone from Gibi to Z- man, it will not get us anywhere. Looking at the future 36, 33, 14, 16, 77 could or will be gone by the trade deadline. According to @TSN the Leafs are drooling over Labushkin. Hopefully, we will get a good return. I am not talking about draft picks anymore, hopefully some talent.
I am trying to stay positive, and it is bloody hard. For me, they always will be The Mighty Ducks, a team I love and support.
Good luck tonight ---
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5 hours ago, dirtyredduck said:
I’m tired of losing. I’m exhausted by excuses. I feel very sorry for Fowler and Henrique.
I know many fans love Gibson. I’ve been a Ducks fan since ‘95 (so not from the absolute beginning, but for a while just the same). Keeping Gibson in goal night after night, year-after-year is painful. He may be the greatest goalie of all time, but he’s a lousy Ducks goalie. 179-180-59 career. We haven’t been in the post season in so long I cannot remember what it’s like. I went to nearly every home season game and every home playoff game when we won the cup. I’ve never had season tickets, so I’ve just about paid that year off. Man, how I’d like to go into debt again for another run like that!
Let’s move him along and at least start losing with someone else for a while.
The only way that the @NHL and @Samueli family will pay attention to the issue will be for the fans to boy cut the games and did not show up.
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2 hours ago, Belarus said:
Sigh. It'll be nice to get Drysdale, Lundestrom, McTavish and Zegras back someday...
If the GM had signed Drysdale, and Zegras in the off season they would not get hurt as hard they tried to get to speed too fast without training camp. IMO
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On 11/26/2023 at 2:04 PM, tommer-1 said:
Looking at the teams they are facing in the next 10?
3-6-1. And that might be generous.
If they COMPLETELY change their way of playing - quit falling behind 0-2 in the first, stop the penalty box parade, initiate play instead of just react and receive - then I could see them going 4-5-1, maybe 5-5. But that's a big maybe.
In what fantasy land the ducks going to go 4-5 -1 unless there are some changes We lost to Chicago, who are they going to beat? Currently, we are 1-12 in the last 13
Islanders, Rangers, Devils, wings, Flames, Kraken, Vegas, Yotes and the Oilers
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1 hour ago, tommer-1 said:
I would trade 3 zebras for that.
Autocorrect *Zegras
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On 11/29/2023 at 3:50 AM, Aksun said:
Are we willing to give up Zegras\Terry\Zellweger to get one? Proven skill costs a lot.
I will trade Zebras for a proven score or a proven D.
1 goal in 12 games, he is not a superstar you make him to be, yes he can stick handle but nothing more than a second line winger and falling.
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On 12/8/2023 at 9:19 AM, MooseDuck said:
I have feeling we see some in next few years...for the Ducks 30th Anniversary Season I have feeling we are see some Superstars on the Rise right now.
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The ducks team front office has the tendency to trip themselves, trade assets and nothing to show for it. Don't be so confident that the future will be brighter.
The product on the ice is horrendous. No accountability, No Commitment.
@samueliacademy owns the Ducks team to have a tax write off they do not care if the team wins. We have not been competitive in 8 years. We have not made the playoffs since 2019. Bring someone from the school to engineer a winning team.
A caring General manager will go and make a trade and bring some help for the new kids. @patverbeek doesn’t care. He gets paid his contract for the years on the team with nothing to lose.
The Sharks GM @mikegrier walked to the locker room, challenged them, and made them play hard as a team for the log in the front. Our GM @patverbeek is incompetent to do so. Grade: FCoaching – 10 too many men on the ice in 27 games. 1 win- 12 losses in the last 13 games, PP sucks, 5 ON 5 is not a threat at all, they can’t score a goal to save their lives. The @anahimducks coaching staff aren’t qualified to be rat catchers. I would fire them all before the trip to the East Coast. Grade: F
Defense – my lord except for Guddas they are all failing. Turning the puck, taking dumb penalties, who ran the defense? Bloody joke.
Offense – what offense, Not existing, can’t score a goal.
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1 hour ago, Duckboy93 said:
I honestly think he hates that he isn’t the poster boy for this franchise anymore.
He should have never been the poster boy.
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11 hours ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I must be, yes. You're right.
Given that I'm "lucking" hockey knowledge, I think I'm just going to take my leave of this place. I know that I've contributed plenty to negativity here in the past, so perhaps I'm part of the problem. But in a season where the team is clearly better, where young players are progressing, and where there are new things to be excited about, the pessimism here is a bummer to me. I'm not really interested in engaging with it any more.
Hopefully I'll catch everyone sooner rather than later.
Stop being a martyr. I love the Duck team, I just don't believe the team is playing 60 minutes as a unit, ( ave game, Edmonton, penguin ext..) There is a process. I do not believe in our process is the correct one.
That's all.
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25 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
Other than the bolded, I disagree with all of this. They're competitive, smart, physical, and make life tough on opponents. Not every player does that, nor can they always sustain it for 60 minutes, but that's because they're still in the rebuild process. I like the progress I'm seeing.
If you don't think this team is headed in the right direction, it's because you don't want to see it.
Unfortunately, you are lucking hockey knowledge.
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2 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
Competitive.
Smart.
200 feet.
Physical.
Hard to play against.
Klingberg, Zegras and Drysdale are the only three guys not really meeting all of those standards. And Klingberg was a one-year gamble/cap floor guy.
Killorn, Lyubushkin, Kulikov, Gudas, Strome (maybe), Vatrano, McGinn, Leason, Carlsson, Mintyukov, LaCombe, Luneau, Gaucher all seem to me, just from what I have observed, guys who compete, play heavy, in some cases mean, don't go brain dead often.
Even Zegras and Drysdale in their small sample sizes this season seemed to play a little redassed.
I think the word has been passed down. Play a certain way. Don't pass up hits. Be a pain in the ass to play against. don't give anything easy.
It's a process, no player/team can play that way 60 minutes a night/82 games a season. But it seems like it is slowly becoming their identity.
Let’s be honest: He is not the worst GM in Duck history. If you look back, Pier Gutier was painful, GM Brian Murry drafted and traded the best for us so far some of you are to young to remember. Now describing PV
Competitive - Nope
Smart – try again.
200 feet – No! Our D is painful to watch, not supporting the goalie except the hammer #7
Physical – when they feel like it and not all of them.
Hard to play against – Absolutely Positively NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is the reason we are under 500, 28 the team in the NHL.
Z- Man is a second-line winger on his best day.
We are supposed to play the same system as the Avs. Did you watch the game last night? Missing players are not an excuse.
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13 hours ago, Belarus said:
Actually, yes I am.
Got your attention?
I am, because I understand that winning and losing run in cycles, especially when there's a salary cap. In every sports league teams are good for a while, and then they're bad for a while. But, of course, you already know this. You and many others on the board are frustrated at how long our "bad time" is. I get it. But twenty years ago or so, the Kings went through an eight-year playoff drought but eventually won two Cups. Detroit has has more good eras and bad eras than I can count. Montreal has won TWENTY-FOUR Cups but hasn't won one since '93. Heck, the Chicago Cubs took 108 years between Pennants. (Gads, I hope the Ducks don't do that...) The Ducks have and will have more ups and downs. We're down right now. We will be up again. Just like everybody else. Patience, Grasshopper --- PATIENCE...
I understand the process as long as you see them trying. I am a duck fan from day one, i was there for many of the milestones. I traveled to Minnesota, Ottawa, and the Joe in 2007 to watch them win. The circle of losing has been too long, and you can not convince me otherwise. At the end of every season to say the same thing "we will be aggressive in the off season and bring talent in” it did not materialized.
We are below the salary cap, I know next year we will need to sign some kids. I do not see Killnor as an asset (I know he was injured) number 14 and 33 will be gone next year and we will have an extra 10 m to spend. We did not make the playoffs since 2019 we have not been a legit contender in 10 years.
Baseball, it is not a sport. Curling on the radio is more exciting, keep it out of the conversation, please.
When a GM @patverbeek says it is ok to lose games, it makes no sense. who in the right mind says that? I also understand is that he means stick to the process. it has been so long to keep your head up as a fan.
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9 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
So the 2003 season was a failure then? And 2015?
Of course I want the team to win the Cup every season. But I don't understand this notion that if you don't win the championship, the season is wasted or whatever. Maybe that's not what you're saying, but if so, please correct me because that's what it sounds like.
I have incredibly fond memories of the 2003 run to the Cup finals and the 2015 run to the conference finals. Those were great seasons that are not diminished because they didn't get all the way to finish line.
If you expect the team to win every season, the team would need to have unlimited resources. If you want the team to have unlimited resources, it would need to have different owners in a different market and be in a different league. Then it's not even the same team any more. Heck, it's probably not even playing the same sport.
And just to bring it back to this season - I'm enjoying it because it's a step forward. It looks like the team is on the right track. I have no idea if they'll get derailed at some point by bad management or coaching or player failure, but the team is playing better hockey for the first time in a while and I'm glad for that.
The ducks played 23 games, lost 60% of them, won 39%. Goal scoring is down by .71% If you are happy with it, good for you. Let's see what happens the next few games.
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35 minutes ago, g20topdogg said:
I don't understand what you're arguing anymore. You admit that we've improved and I'd say it's been a pretty significant improvement. Let's just take your 7-2 and 4-2 numbers, even if the team ends up losing the same amount of games but we reduce the goals against isn't that progress that the coaching staff and gm have made? Yeah we're not good enough to win the games but we're not getting destroyed anymore. Doesn't that only show how far in a hole we've been and climbing out isn't as easy as jumping out of the hole? Your whole thing is wins and loses but I'm seeing a team actually getting better. They're not great and again no body said they were. I'm not happy we're losing, you're not happy, no one is happy. But looking at the team in general I'm seeing progress you're seeing losses. I'm still hoping and expect this team to have more wins that last year in by no means saying we should end up with the same record. Let's see:
Shots against- down
Shots for- up
Goals against- down
Goals for- up
Current team pts%- up
Power play- up
Penalty kill- up
All positive directions for the team.
When you are the bottom, there is No way but up.
I was there in 1993 I was there in 2007 I would like to see a team that compete and win. There are no awards for second all the way to last place.
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19 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
1000%
23 minutes ago, Belarus said:I'll throw in a little tangent here. At one point a few years ago, we were still paying Corey Perry, Ryan Kesler and Patrick Eaves, none of which who were playing any games for the Ducks. It negatively affected who we could sign until the Ducks got them off the payroll. Then came BM's experiment with Eakins. Verbeek's going to need time to undo what BM left him. Hope it doesn't take too much longer...
So you are ok with losing? In the USA the Mecca of capitalism It's ok to lose money and games? The team could have traded the contacts the organization chose not to.
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24 minutes ago, Fisix said:
i find it amusing and sad that most of the naysayers completely ignore the SOG record we've put up so far this season.
i'm not saying that improvement is enough by itself to make one completely happy with the team's progress so far, after literally just 23 regular season games with a new coach and at least 1/4 of a new roster, but completely ignoring it is telling on yourself.
Show me one team that won a championship on SOG percentage only, don't fool yourself.
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8 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
You have completely missed the point.
First, there were typos in my post for which I apologize. But when I said "there are bumps in the road as the team moves toward a level where they can compete," I am talking about competing for a playoff spot, for a division title, and for a Cup. That was never going to happen this year. If you thought otherwise, I'm sorry, but those were unreasonable expectations.
Second, if we're talking about "competing" in terms of working hard on a game to game basis, a losing streak doesn't necessarily have anything to do with that. Good teams can win without competing hard. Bad teams can compete hard and still lose. I have seen much more "compete" out of this team this season than in years past. Without it, we wouldn't have seen the comeback wins from earlier in the season.
There have been games that have gotten out of hand, and those are painful to watch. But if you've watched the last two games, you've seen a team working hard and outplaying two decent teams. They haven't gotten the results they want, but that's hockey. They've been good the last couple, and it bodes well for them ending this losing streak and getting back to winning from time to time.
No apologies are needed. (I misspell as well)
This is a good conversation, I wish the team had half of the passion we the fans show here.
No I did not think we are going to be a contender this year but I belive we are better than 27 spot in the NHL.
Secondly look at the Redwing organization they send their players to the AHL for 2-3 years before they play on the NHL level by then they are hangry to showcase and work for a contract.
third look at our schedule it is not getting any easier with the ducks lost 8 in a row do you believe they're going to beat the Ave's ? Winnipeg or the Islanders? No
When Brian Burke was the GM he said I evaluate the team and adjust after 20 games we are here make a trade.
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3 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
This is just incorrect. The Ducks were one of the best teams in the league from 2002 - 2018. That encompasses most of the last 15 years. In that 15 year stretch, they only missed the playoffs three times, they made two Cup finals (winning one), made two other conference finals, and won the division six times (including five in a row).
The Ducks have been in a rebuild for two years. Bob Murray tried to re-tool without tearing things down and failed utterly. It left Pat Verbeek with a lot of work to do to build a stable contender. That work is ongoing because it can't be done overnight (or even in two years). The Kings have two great players left (Kopitar and Doughty) from their glory days. The Ducks don't have any - Fowler was never as good as Doughty and Getzlaf faded before Kopitar. That means they're engaged in a much different type of rebuild than the Kings.
I beg the deafer, we have not made the playoffs since 2019. we drafted the wrong players I never thought that Camron is that good of a player, I know hazey loves him for his skating ability but that does not will a cup.
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2 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
This team is finally moving in the right direction under a new regime and we've got a bunch of fans who are already pull the plug.
Yes, there are bumps in the road as the time moves toward a level where they can compete, but that's the way this goes. Give it time.
You're calling the game vs. Colorado or Edmenton compete? When you lose 8 in a row, you are NOT Competing.
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8 minutes ago, hoxxey said:
Again, well stated especially the part that says "it's still a learning process"...
Also, isn't it true that penalties stem from players being out of position? That is coaching.
Nothing to learn, it is Ignorance on the management part. The ducks team is in a rebuild for the last 15 years, the kings did it in 3. We do not need any first round draft picks, trade Z+K for a proven player.
Give me the opportunity to talk to the locker room and see what will happen. Character, Integrity, Commitment, High Energy. Play for the logo on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.
Print that on the wall, hold them to it.
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I was a 29-year season ticket holder. I gave my seats up because I do not believe the ownership have the passion and commitment to win. They have a PV as the GM and a rookie as a coach.
The low hockey IQ GM Pat Verbek is a C- so far as a GM, better than the Failed drunk we had before. PV gives a good speech like a politician and then nothing on the delivery. I would fire myself if I was in his seat.
We need someone like Brian Burke back to hold the team accountable, have character, and have the will to win it does not exist currently therefor the seats at the Honda Center are empty.
The San Jose GM spoke to the team after they lost 10 – ? Twice and they all came together and play harder, PV is not competent enough to do so.
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23 minutes ago, MooseDuck said:
Much as I love to see the Ducks sign Pears....not sure IF they want the drama that is following him.
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I'm not privilege to the happenings in Chicago, but he can help the kids. It was a thought to see a team I love succeed.
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1 hour ago, MooseDuck said:
Not just a Good D-man but a Scoring Forward as well...Injuries are taking a toll at lousy time.
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Perry is available ....
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Fox, let's be honest, the duck's team is a tax write off for the Samueli's. There is no way you will have an alcoholic for a GM letting him run a team, make him resign. Then get a new GM that wants to take 10 more years to make it to the playoffs. We the fans are suffering, they don't care.
Verbeek = Worst GM in Ducks History
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We are all aware of the stats. No fact check is needed. I don't understand why we can not go and get someone like Phil Kessel, give him $2M. He is sitting on the sideline. He can score goals, bring leadership, push the morale up.
It can't hurt we are at 1-14 and counting by Monday night, we will be 1-16.