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  1. As a Ducks fan, I'm not worried about this. I think the offersheet is a tool that smaller market teams need to use more often as a way to level the playing field. With the way the cap rules are written, rich teams can spend over the cap by using LTIR and other loopholes (burying players in the AHL, etc.), in addition to the advantages they get in hiring front and back office staff, coaches, facilities, etc. If you're a budget team, you're not often going to get taken advantage of, since you'll most likely have cap room. You might as well use it. If a team comes around trying to poach a young player, you match or you take the draft pick compensation. That's the way it goes. I'm perfectly fine that the Oilers offersheeted Dustin Penner. Burke backed himself into a corner and he got taken advantage of. So be it.
  2. It's going to take a complete change in the culture. It's a good old boys club right now. At some point, a few outsiders (or insiders who aren't afraid to ruffle feathers) are going to need to start using offersheets as a legitimate tool to build their roster. But it's going to have to be more than one or two GMs; if you get four or five guys who start using them, it will become acceptable and then we'll see them more regularly. But right now, everyone's afraid of using it and getting blackballed. I don't disagree with you that these guys need to get over themselves and realize there's nothing personal in it. But I can see why there's hesitation; you don't want to be the guy who uses it and then no one trades with you.
  3. I disagree with your premise because I think Cody Ceci IS a bad player, but at $3.25 million, he won't kill you. I would take an asset to get him from the Oilers. But I don't think they'll do that. He works for them.
  4. At worst, he's been a very good, durable 3rd line possession forward who has increased his point totals every season and is now basically a 0.5 ppg player. I don't know that he'll be a 30 goal guy, but I think that's still his ceiling, and I could easily see him settling in as a 20 - 25 goal guy playing a hard forechecking game on the 2nd line. He fits the Ducks timeline. I'd pay $4 million per season for that.
  5. Yeah, this is encouraging for our young d-men. Pulock - 1st rd (15th OA): 160 games under Thompson, plays 21 minutes per game Pelech - 3rd rd: 105 games under Thompson, 21 mpg Mayfield - 2nd rd: 146 games under Thompson, 21 mpg Sebastien Aho - 5th rd: 156 games under Thompson, 17 mpg Toews - 4th rd: 130 games under Thompson, 25 mpg De Haan - 1st rd (12th OA): 56 games under Thompson, plays 13 mpg (although he was around 20 his entire career until last season) So, for the record, that's two 1st rounders, a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th, most of whom play (or have played) significant minutes on very good blue lines. This shows that he didn't just take stars and guide them to success, he helped develop flawed prospects into legitimately good NHL blueliners. Plus Scott Mayfield, who is someone who plays in the NHL, apparently 😉. This was part of my problem with Eakins. How many NHL defensemen did HE help develop? I think it's telling that most of the ones who played under him who became NHL players didn't come near their potential until well after they'd left the Ducks. And even relatively highly drafted players (like Larsson) sputtered under Eakins.
  6. Yeah, a lot of comments from Islanders fans wishing us luck because they're happy to see him go. But I think there's a chance he can succeed focusing on defensemen. I also heard that he was decent at running the power play, but we'll see if that's going to be his department. I know they worked together before, but hopefully this isn't just cronyinism. Get it? No one? Tough crowd.
  7. Yeah, that's not bad, assuming the kids up front take steps forward. I don't think that line gets the most out of Strome - he's best when next to an elite winger whom he can dish pucks to. But it's not bad.
  8. Would Lafreniere sign for that, though? And I imagine the Rangers would immediately match and figure out the details later. So the Ducks wouldn't get their man but would now be a target. I think if you're going to offersheet, you need to be willing to go high enough that there's no way the team will match. And I don't know if Lafreniere is worth $5 million at this point. But I'd still like to see it, just for the fun of it.
  9. I could see that. If Carlsson stays with the big club, I put Killorn on his LW, with Henrique up top. If we do pick up a better scoring winger, you move Henrique down with Strome and Vatrano to form a weird, but hopefully effective third line. One thing that's not going to change any time soon - the Ducks are SLLLOOOOWWWWW. Cronin had better figure out a good forechecking system for this group, because they are not going to be scoring off the rush very often.
  10. I guess I'm only interested in a stopgap if: We get an asset along with it. If Mantha comes along with an asset and all it costs is cap space (or scrubs), sure, I'm cool with that. He doesn't cost any assets (i.e. a UFA) and we can flip him at the deadline for something decent. It's someone who can help lead or shelter the kids in the lineup (here I'm thinking of a Matt Dumba type who isn't very good but would push Gudas down and allow him to protect one of our young LHDs). Otherwise, I want Verbeek looking at guys who are young enough that they can help for the next three to five years. We've got enough veteran presence in the lineup at this point (Fowler, Killorn, Gudas) that I'm not looking at an older guy unless he's really good. That's why I'm not super enamored about Tarasenko. I think he's going to be pretty toasty by year three of a contract. And I don't want to grab any reclamation projects. I don't think this is the right atmosphere for that.
  11. I think that's a problem for next season, not this one. I don't think the idea is to tank this year, but they're not going to be in strong competition for a playoff spot unless everything goes completely right (and even then...). So I'm not worried about replacing Henrique's 20 goals until next offseason. But if Montreal was willing to retain some salary on Anderson, I might do that. I'm not interested in a 30-point player for $5.5 million for four years. At $4 million? Maybe. I think the team needs a great scorer regardless. It might not be this offseason, but sometime in the next 15 months they'll need to add one. Anderson isn't that guy but could help with size.
  12. I understand all your points, but here are some counters: I don't subscribe to the theory that you need RHD to play on the right side. I think it's helpful, but I think there are plenty of LHD who have the ability to play over there. So subtracting a RHD doesn't mean the Ducks are automatically short on RDs if they've got other guys to take their place. I think LaCombe, for example, has played the right side before. I think it's a mystery as to whether the Ducks have any prospects who are true scorers. Perreault and Tracey have to be considered longshots to have NHL careers at this point. Pastujov is a possibility, but he has plenty of his own hurdles to overcome. And all the 2023 draftees are way too far away to make a call on. I love me some playmakers, but the Ducks seems to have stocked up on those. McTavish is the only one on the roster who seems to fit the bill as a scorer, and I don't think he's elite at it - very good, but not elite. The team needs a player who can fill the net. I'm not super thrilled about it being a one-dimensional guy like Debrincat, but I think Keller is a step up from Debrincat and would be worth a high price. I'm a Drysdale skeptic. I think he still has plenty of upside, but I was hoping for Sami Vatanen and I haven't seen anything to make me think Drysdale has that in him. At his best, Vatanen was a 2nd pairing d-man who could run the first power play, play well positionally, move the puck out of the zone with possession, and surprise bigger players with his feistiness in the corners. I just don't know that Drysdale will get there, which means his upside is probably as a good 3rd pairing d-man. If the Ducks can get more value than that by trading him now rather than seeing the shine come off, I'm good with it. I don't want to give him away, but I think he could be a useful asset in a trade like this. I like Zellweger, Mintyukov, and Luneau's upside more than Drysdale. I wonder if Drysdale is a Verbeek guy. He came in under the old regime, so I think if any of these guys are going to get dealt, Drysdale (or Zellweger, who also came in before Verbeek got here) are the likely guys to get traded. I will stipulate in the Drysdale stuff that we've only seen him play for Eakins. I'm eager to see him in an actual defensive system, which might change my mind. That said, while I'm not advocating giving him away, I would be fine seeing him moved for a proven player that fits an area of need for the Ducks.
  13. I'd probably want a 2nd rounder in there as well, but I think that's a fair deal. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I wouldn't be unhappy, either.
  14. At some point they need players to actually play hockey. We know they're looking at RDs because it's rumored they're the ones going after Dumba the hardest. I think Drysdale could make sense there.
  15. He's saying Keller : Arizona :: Zegras : Anaheim. Basically, Keller is Arizona's Zegras. So when we're coming up with these trade proposals, we have to consider what Zegras means to the Ducks and whether we'd trade him for a similar package. I see where he's coming from, although I don't think the two are completely interchangeable. I do think most of the packages that people have proposed here are light based on what Arizona is going to want. Keller is a PPG player on a garbage team. He's 24 and signed to a reasonable deal for the next four years. I think Drysdale and a 1st is a good start, and I think two more assets gets it done (Pastujov + 2nd, maybe).
  16. I don't think that's actually an issue. Helleson hasn't proven anything yet, plus we know there will be injuries. And perhaps one moves over to the left side. Gudas will most likely be in his last year when Luneau is starting to get ready, but there will be room for him if Dumba is only around for a year or two. The other thing is whether or not Drysdale is in the team's long-term plans. I could see him going the other way in a deal like the Keller one you guys are discussing. Drysdale is still a better prospect than Schneider. Zegras is also younger than Keller. If you change Schneider to Kakko, the deal looks a lot better. But I do think to get Keller, the Ducks would have to throw another high pick/good prospect in there.
  17. The problem for me is that Dumba isn't good. He's 2nd/3rd pairing guy who has played 1st pairing minutes and probably wants to get paid as a 1st pairing d-man. By his early 30s, he's basically going to be Radko Gudas, if he's used appropriately. Which is fine if you're paying him $3 - $4 million per year. I doubt he's going to take a 5-year, $4 million per year deal. If he wants more than $5 million per year, I'm not giving him more than two years. If he's willing to take $4 per year, I'd go up to five years.
  18. Different players, different teams, different situations, different egos, different timing. The Devils got Hughes signed early and he was immediately the highest paid player on the team (I'm leaving this in, but editing to note that Hamilton was the highest paid player on the team as dts pointed out above. I think the point is still valid if you change "player" to "forward."). When they signed Meier, the market had changed and the cap is ready to go up, plus Meier is further along in his career. On top of that, if Hughes is upset about it, they can sell him on how Meier gets them closer to a Cup. But the timing is the key. If the Devils already had Meier on an $8.8 million contract, they'd be hard-pressed to tell Hughes that he deserves less. Now that Hughes has already signed, there's nothing he can do except hold out, which just doesn't happen any more. If the Ducks brought in Debrincat at $8.5, I think there are legitimate reasons to tell Zegras that he shouldn't get more (Debrincat has proven more, they're buying out more UFA years, etc.), but it would be a LOT more difficult discussion. This is a losing team in a small market. Now you're telling the burgeoning face of the franchise, a guy who's had to put up with three seasons of garbage, that you're not going to make him the highest paid player on the team? It's a much different scenario than Hughes and Meier in New Jersey.
  19. I'm fine with signing Tatar, but I wouldn't mind Dumba on a one-year deal. And I think it makes sense even if we want to play the kids. There are going to be injuries, and it allows the Ducks some flexibility in sending kids down to the AHL if necessary. It also allows Gudas to slide down to a 3rd pairing role where he's more effective and protect LaCombe or Helleson or Zellweger or whomever. There will be room to play kids even if Dumba is here. I'm just not looking to sign him to a long-term contract, unless he gets here and is so good that the Ducks want to keep him around. But I'm hoping Drysdale, Helleson, and Luneau are the long-term answers on the right side.
  20. Sure, he could have, although I think it would have complicated the RFA contract discussions as well. If we had to offer $8.5 million to get Debrincat to sign, doesn't that set the floor for Zegras? I don't think Zegras would accept (or deserves) less than Debrincat. So yeah, the team could have afforded the higher payment in the short term, but it might have caused some long-term issues. I know the team needs scoring wingers in a bad way, but Debrincat is so one dimensional, I'm okay that the Ducks missed out here. I'm fine looking for that elsewhere.
  21. The location was also an issue. It sounds like Debrincat wasn't willing to sign long-term in Anaheim. And the Ducks were not about to trade for a guy they would only have for a year with no guarantees they could flip him for better assets than they gave up to get him. I don't think there was anything Verbeek could have done here.
  22. I think New Jersey would be sending Vanacek back. They have Schmid who played well last year and is potentially a 1B, plus they'd have to dump Vanacek's salary if they were to take on Gibson. I think that's the perfect scenario for the Ducks - they get Vanacek, who is definitely good enough. And they're not committed to many years (he's got two years left) or much salary, so they can play Dostal as much as they want and either flip Vanacek or just keep him around until his contract runs out if Dostal steals the job.
  23. I have no idea why Zadina has failed thus far. The little bit that I've heard it discussed, it seems to vaguely hint at some work ethic issues, but I don't want to come to that conclusion. It could be that the skills haven't translated or that he hasn't gotten the right opportunity. But my thought is that if Zadina's not an Yzerman guy (and he's clearly not at this point), will he be a Verbeek guy? Verbeek was in that front office while Zadina was struggling to break through. My gut tells me that he's not going to be the type Verbeek is looking for, either, and I'm ok with that. I trust Verbeek to know whether the kid is worth taking a chance on.
  24. The Leafs are also in a lot worse cap shape than the Senators are in, so that drives the return down as well.
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