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  1. Gorbachav55
    It's not relevant to this discussion WHY Hughes signed the contract he did. And I'm not arguing he shouldn't have signed it; $64 million is a lot to turn down. But there's no question Hughes cost himself money by signing long-term instead of bridging. He was coming off of two good seasons for a teenager, but not great ones, he had been injured. He could have signed a bridge deal to bet on himself, and he'd be set to make $10 million right now. He's put up two seasons in a row (at ages 20 and 21) of 90+ point-per-season paces. He'd be looking at eight figures per year, easy. If you're Zegras, you're coming off of two good, not great seasons. The production was better than Hughes' first two seasons, but he was also two years older. He hasn't been injured. And you have an ego the size of the New York metro area. You see that your good friend Jack probably cost himself $15 million or so. It makes complete sense he would want to bridge. And it also makes complete sense that Verbeek would want to lock him up to a similar deal that Hughes got, albeit a little bit less. Both options have good rationale. I think the Ducks are probably going to have to cave if Zegras wants a bridge. They're not going to give him more than $8 million per year for 8 years until they see a point-per-game season. And I don't think Zegras is going to settle for less. So give him a bridge, let him prove himself over the next few seasons, and then get him signed long-term afterward.
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    I seriously doubt that. I expect Verbeek would sign him to 8x$7.75 right now without blinking an eye, but Zegras won't sign it. He knows his buddy Hughes is getting hosed out of millions by this and isn't going to go the same route.
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    I was asking for it because I legitimately wanted to see it. If it's just a rumor, then it doesn't have a place in the discussion.
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    So in the same vein as Gibson's quote, it's meaningless. Gibson hasn't been traded, and my guess is that it's around a 90% chance that Gibson DOES play another game for the Ducks. In other words, there's no evidence that Verbeek actually said it, so we probably shouldn't be treating it as an actual quote that means anything.
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    So there's not actually a quote from Verbeek about no one getting more than Terry. Got it. We're just making things up now to complain about Verbeek. As for the no trade protection, that's a good thing for the Ducks. It gives them flexibility, and even if they don't use it, I'd rather them have it. I have no idea why a lack of trade protection for Terry is a negative thing for Verbeek. I don't think trading Terry is in plans A through Q. But maybe if we get to plan R, it's an option. I have no problems with that.
  6. Gorbachav55
    Can you send me a link to the quote about no one getting paid higher than Terry? I don't recall that. I'd love to read it in context.
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    I get that people are nervous about Zegras and Drysdale. I don't really get the delay either, to be honest, but I'm certain that both will be in the opening night lineup. That said, I don't understand your criticism on the bolded. I'm not thrilled with the way it got done, but, whether we like it or not, it did get done. Terry is signed for seven years and at a very reasonable price. So it's not true to say Verbeek "couldn't get it done." He did get it done.
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    How common is that? We see guys who go the NCAA route sometimes use the free agent provision. The Ducks famously got Jultzed, but there are plenty of others who have done it, some good players, most just guys. But how often do we see actual prospects like Luneau from the Canadian junior leagues (i.e. not 7th round lottery tickets) decide to wait it out? With the college kids, they have the benefit of both getting an education AND becoming a free agent. Those junior kids are all about hockey. There's no need to wait on the ELC. Have we seen anything like that recently where a CHL prospect decides not to sign with the team that drafted him? I don't recall anything, but perhaps I'm just missing something.
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    I'm in favor of giving Drysdale a bit more than the minimum because I do think it's valuable to keep relationships cordial, and a little bit could go a long way in doing that. Plus the Ducks don't need to worry about the cap anyway. But I don't think they need to offer him that much. Colorado and Byram are in a bit of a different place in that Colorado couldn't afford Byram having a great season and then pricing himself out of town. So they got cost certainty for the next couple of years while they wait for the cap to hopefully go up. The Ducks can afford to let Drysdale have a great season and pay him more next offseason.
  10. Gorbachav55
    Lafreniere just signed a 2-year bridge at $2.3 per year. The Ducks should have offersheeted him
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    I mean, it's a PTO. It's not even a real contract. Who cares?
  12. Gorbachav55
    I, for one, am interested in what Groulx can bring on the 4th line under a new coach. He struggled a couple years ago under Eakins, but I'm curious if he has enough to be successful as a 4th line grinder. I don't care about Leason.
  13. Gorbachav55
    So then he missed 74 games last year. He's not going to miss any more.
  14. Gorbachav55
    He's not good. He'll play on the PK and allow the Ducks some flexibility if Helleson isn't ready for full time duty. But Lyubushkin isn't a good player.
  15. Gorbachav55
    Drysdale will be signed. It doesn't make sense to assume otherwise.
  16. Gorbachav55
    Music to my ears! Although this guy doesn't necessarily knock Gudas down any pegs on the RD ladder. But he's definitely a PKer. I wonder what this means for Helleson.
  17. Gorbachav55
    That's inherently true of most UFA signings. They go with the team that's willing to pay the most. Out of the 32 teams, there was only one willing to pay Dumba $3.9 million. Does that make it a bad deal? You can not buy whatever you want. But there's no evidence for it. Using stats from 5+ years ago and hand-waving away stats from the last two years is absurd.
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    That looks like top notch cherry-picking. Killorn's last four years have been very good and very productive. Generally, you give recent years more weight in any projection model because it indicates something has changed in the way he plays that makes him more productive. If you want to attribute 100% of that to his linemates and coach, you can, but that's a long time to sustain that level of production if none of it is him. Statistically, it's very unlikely that all of his increased production is related to others. That said, of course it's likely he'll produce less in Anaheim - he'll be under a different coach with worse linemates and he's getting into his mid-30s. But you're talking about a drop from 64 points to 40. That's a 43% drop in production with very little evidence to justify it. For comparison's sake, Ryan Strome, who was playing with linemates in New York who were arguably just as good as Killorn's, had a 24% drop in production when he came to Anaheim. That was under Eakins. If Cronin has a pulse, he's going to be a better coach than Eakins and should be able to get more out of his players. But even ignoring that, a 24% drop Killorn's production would give him 49 points, i.e. right in the middle of dts' prediction. It's always possible Killorn gets out of Tampa and suddenly hits a wall. If he gets injured, production will drop. But he's been incredibly healthy and has produced at a good 2LW pace for the last four years. Age comes for us all, but unless it gave you a call and let you know it's on its way for Killorn, your projection seems unjustifiably pessimistic.
  19. Gorbachav55
    This seems about right to me.
  20. Gorbachav55
    I'm not sure what Greg Cronin has to do with Killorn as a player. Any player the Ducks sign is going to be subject to Cronin's coaching. Unless there's something specific about Killorn's game that you think will suffer under Cronin more than under a different coach (and I don't see how we have any way of knowing that at this point), then we're just looking at the player. Zegras is going to sign. I'm not sure why that matters in this either.
  21. Gorbachav55
    When your team is bad, it takes a hefty price to get quality players in the door. Verbeek could have not signed him and the Ducks would be even worse. A couple other things: 1) Killorn will be 37 in the final year of the deal, not 38. He turns 34 in a month, so the Ducks have him for his 34, 35, 36, and 37 seasons. 2) I don't know if Killorn missed any games in the COVID season, but he still played 68 of them. Over the last eight seasons, he's missed fewer than five games. And his production has improved over that stretch. If there's anyone who's going to retain value into his mid-30s, it's a guy who's been incredibly healthy and is taking his game to new levels. I'm not saying Killorn's going to be great for the Ducks when he's 37, but I think speculation that he's going to be worthless at that age (or earlier) is way overblown based on what the player has done the last eight years. It's possible he is, but Killorn seems like the type you bet on.
  22. Gorbachav55
    The Killorn deal might be tough by the last year, but it will be movable, if necessary. And I think it was a necessary contract to get some veteran leadership and presence in the locker room. I don't expect the Ducks are going to regret it. It's not going to keep them from signing anyone.
  23. Gorbachav55
    Verbeek tried but Ottawa or Vegas messed it up. Otherwise, my guess is the blame lies with the Samuelis. I speculate that they're not letting him spend a bunch of money on LTIR players who won't ever play for them.
  24. Gorbachav55
    The Coyotes are $4 million under the ceiling because they're paying 13 guys who retired in the 1990's but still qualify for LTIR. They're not actually anywhere close to the ceiling because of players who will play for them.
  25. Gorbachav55
    I had seen reported several places that he would not waive his NTC to go to the west coast.
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