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7 hours ago, g20topdogg said:
What they need to do is have some kind of cap implications for the following season. Like if the injured player comes back after the regular season ends and during the first three games of the playoffs then they should incur a 50% (or even 100%) cap recapture penalty on the remaining cap hit of the player starting from the day they aquired him (regardless of any retained cap). And if the injured player does come back for the final 5 games of the regular season (anything less will incur the same cap penalty) then no cap penalty will apply towards next season. I think this may be too complicated in regards to injured players and teams likely wouldn't like it (especially the bigger teams that do this) but it would bring some fairness to this current setup. Obviously teams with truly injured players who would legitimately fall into this penalty would be really upset but I think you gotta do something. It's getting blatantly obvious what teams are doing and it's ridiculous.
I would like to see a simple rule change that the cap hit of a team’s starting 20-man roster has to be under the cap for every playoff game. Scratches can be over the cap, but it would seem more fair if the 20 guys on the ice weren’t $10M over on their own.
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1 hour ago, Aksun said:
Vegas is just the most successful and notorious franchise to do that, but I bet others did that too.
Patrick Kane started the trend in 2015. It’s the only reason they had the cap space to get Vermette at the TDL. Still mad about that…
Tampa has been pretty successful with it too. Just ask Kucherov.
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8 minutes ago, Fisix said:
but why wasn't he drafted before now? there has to be some blemish, or maybe just lack of performance up till now?
There just aren't that many goalies drafted each year compared to skaters. Its roughly 20-25 goalies that are drafted out of 224 selections. Probably because they take much longer to develop and are harder to evaluate when they're 18-20 years old. But think about all of the goalies that weren't drafted or were drafted in the very late rounds. I can think of a handful of current starters that weren't drafted - Bobrovsky (FLA), Georgiev (COL), Talbot (LA), Logan Thompson (VGK), Alex Lyon (DET). There are probably others too.
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Sam Gagner on waivers.
Sam Carrick coming in hot in Edmonton?
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Would assume this means Gibby isn't going anywhere before Friday...
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15 minutes ago, Fisix said:
i will note that the number of scouts at our games is slightly down from earlier in the season, and to me it feels from the last game (against the Canucks) that almost all our trade fodder were... no longer working as hard to shine as they were even in just the immediately preceding game against the devils.
Verbeek probably agreed to let them play against Vancouver as long as they promised to not get injured.
Either that or the virus going around the locker room is causing bigger problems than they're telling us about. That might be the explanation for Carrick's 0-for-9 in the face-off circle despite being a 51% guy for the season.
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6 minutes ago, Fisix said:
knowing Beek, it's delay, just in case we need some contract spots for Dehydrated Donkey Dungs and giggles.
i tried to search for any downside to Suchanek, and while i'm not the best social media sleuth, he seems ok, if just a later bloomer than most of our other goalie prospects.
He's 20. In goalie prospect years, that's basically infancy.
It's actually pretty remarkable what he's done already this season at his age in the AHL. He basically forced the team to send Calle Clang to the ECHL because he was outplaying Clang so badly. I'm also a bit surprised that he wasn't drafted considering the draft profiles seemed to believe that he had a ton of raw talent that could be developed, but once upon a time we had an undrafted guy from Switzerland named Jonas Hiller join the organization at the ripe old age 25, and he turned out pretty well. My worry about Suchanek is that he's likely on a lot of radars thanks to his performance against Canada at the 2022 U20 WJCs. I think that if Beeker doesn't sign him sooner than later, another smart GM is going to swoop in and grab him.
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7 hours ago, g20topdogg said:
Wouldn't Max still need to pass through waivers first to play in the NHL this season? Doubt anyone would pick him up but wouldn't Suchanek possibly get picked up?
Suchanek is 20 and would be signing an ELC so I would assume he’d be waivers exempt.
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1 hour ago, Fisix said:
See? It’s possible to sign guys on AHL-only contracts straight to an NHL SPC. This is why Verbeek needs to sign Suchanek to an ELC immediately.
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1 hour ago, Fisix said:
i hazard to posit that the Hank deal has been on the table for weeks, and the team taking him is just waiting till the last second to keep the cost down. maybe there's some wiggle room in the return.
vatrano deal is still up in the air, which is why his name is still being bandied around.
we have tons of sweeteners. Carrick is also probably already spoken for, just waiting for cap reasons.
OR, Beek has screwed all of it up and we'll just trade Silf to Vegas for future considerations.
I tend to believe the seas are still just constantly shifting and GMs are still just looking for the right dance partner. A week ago, Jersey and Pittsburgh might have been buyers, but they tanked their games and are now sellers. And now Nashville is a buyer, go figure. A lot of moving parts though still.
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
Better be a good return if he adds Vaakanainen.
Would you think it's possible that a trade with Colorado could look like this:
Rico (50% RS) + Vaaks + 7th (2024) <--------> Colorado 1st + Girard + Olausson?
I don’t see why Verbeek would want Girard, an LHD, at $5M for three more seasons. Lose him and that works for me.
But in my crazy TDL imagination, I’m thinking about a blockbuster 3-way deal:
ANA gets: 1st (2025 - COL) + Olausson + 3rd (2024 - NSH) + 4th (2024 - COL). Retains 50% of Rico and 50% of Barrie.
COL gets: Rico (75% RS) + Vaakanainen + Barrie (50% RS)
NSH gets: Girard + 2nd (2026 - COL) + Kiviranta. Retains 25% of Rico.
Who says no?
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
I think because Vatrano wouldn't cost them a 1st round pick.
There's still a good case for Henrique to go to Vegas, Colorado or Boston.
Vegas, Colorado, Boston, Edmonton, Dallas, NYR, Vancouver, and Detroit could all really use Rico as a 3C. I’m wondering if Verbeek also adds a player (Vaakanainen?) to get the return he wants.
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1 hour ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
That’s a weird group. I don’t understand what Dallas is doing there. And I’d have assumed that LA and Carolina were there because of the rumors that Ullmark might be available, but then Swayman is in net tonight.
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Leo is going to be the next Barkov.
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12 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
I think he's easily getting 3 years 11-12 mil contract if he hits free agency and with a better chance at winning. The Ducks would have to overpay in both term and aav to get him similar to Killorn if they want to keep him. We signed Killorn through age 37
That only happens if he stays healthy next season and scores 20-25 goals. If he misses 20 games and scores less than 20 goals, he's not getting that as a 31-year-old. So that's the gamble for him.
He also has to know that if he gets moved to a contender, his PP opportunities likely go way down, which could impact his scoring and, in turn, his next contract. Like, who's he bumping from the top-PP unit in New York between Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Trocheck, and Fox?
The Killorn comparison doesn't work for me either. Killorn has Cups and that's why he got what he got. Take away his Cups, and Killorn's contract is half of what Verbeek gave him. We all know that.
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34 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Why would Vatrano take a two year extension when he could easily get 3-4 when he hits UFA?
I suppose the thinking would be that offering an above-market AAV on a 2-year contract one year before he goes UFA provides some additional security if he doesn't want to bet on himself repeating his 30G performance next season. I betcha the Ducks could offer something like 2 x $5M and probably make him think about it.
He'll also be 31 when his current contract expires. Does anyone actually offer him four years in UFA that takes him to age 35? Doubt it.
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1 minute ago, tommer-1 said:
Eh, he's older than Leo was - he'll turn 21 next JAN - and he will have 2 years of playing against older guys in the NCAA, just as Leo had two years and about the same amount of games in the SHL.
I think most of the Leo plan was based on his age and physical development. Cutter has one full year of age/growth on him, plus he will be starting against NHLer's basically a full year after Leo did. So, Leo started playing in the NHL two years before Gauthier, from a birthdate standpoint.
Hopefully you're right. But most NCAA seasons are fewer than 40 games (including playoffs), so we really don't know how Gauthier (or any kid) will hold up against an 82-game grind until they actually experience it.
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4 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
I think Gauthier will be a close second. But it most likely will be something that he continues to develop at the NHL level. Be great if he just stormed right out of the gates.
Assuming he's not put on the "Cutter Plan" next season, right?
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12 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
Frank shoots the puck and Frank scores goals and Frank hustles. He's far from being Auston Matthews, but those are valuable and desirable traits on any team, and especially on this one. He is NOT a defensive stalwart by any means, but it is what it is.
I don't think the return for him would outweigh his value to the roster, considering how many young forwards they will probably ice in the Top 9 next season - Carlsson, Zegras, McTavish, Gauthier. You are gonna want some vets in there to help those guys along. At this point it's looking like Killorn, Strome, Terry, and that's it if you trade Vatrano. That's only 7 guys.
I think if he gets dealt then Verbeek is 1000% trading for a vet W or going HARD to acquire a UFA vet W this summer, and possibly both.
I agree with all of this. I also don't see any redundancy with Vatrano. He's a pure shooter, and we just don't have any of those anywhere else in the room. IMO, you need at least one high volume shooter to make your offense go, or else you end up just passing the puck all over the ice without any results on the scoreboard. If he goes, where do the Ducks find his shot volume next season? Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah Guentzel. He's not coming here. I mean realistically where do the Ducks find a volume shooter who can take over that role for Vatrano next season?
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It's starting....
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6 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
I don't think the retention would be more than 10%. They are pretty strapped for cash next season. Their 2025 2nd pick + Ryan Chesley. Not going to happen since Kuznetsov has a NTC unless he's honest about wanting a fresh start.
It’s only a 10-team list and I have to imagine any NHL team would be preferable to Hershey.
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Obviously true, but the league needs to do something about teams that bury a Kane, a Kucherov, or a Stone on LTIR until the first day of the playoffs and end up with a healthy roster one day after the regular season ends that would have been $9M over the cap the day before. It's blatant cap circumvention IMO, and the league doesn't care because these are large-market teams that the league is practically rooting for to do well in the playoffs for $$$ purposes. I'm open to other ideas.