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6 hours ago, saskduckfan said:
Verbeek is at it again. According to tonight's Dallas broadcadt, the plan with Carlsson is to only play him in two games each week. If that's the plan, send him back. If he plays like tonight, play him every game.
First of all I don't know whether the dallas broadcast is the best source. But even if it is I don't see the harm in it. Carlsson is an 18 year old kid who has never played professional hockey in North America. I want to see him play but I also don't want to see him hurt or run out of steam in january.
If that is in fact the plan I wouldn't bother me one bit.
BTW the Verbeek criticism is getting old. While I would have liked to see it happen faster he did re-sign Terry, Zegras & Drysdale. He brought in much needed toughness in Gudas and Lyubushkin and some veteran scoring in Killorn. While the simple size is tiny his draft picks are panning out. The returns from his early trades (Helleson, Clang, Luneau) look promising and he brought in new coaches for the big team and the Gulls. Sure Eakins was around for a year too long but PV deserves some praise.
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2 hours ago, Fisix said:
Hell to the no. Might as well redo the Theo trade again, but with full knowledge of future performance this time.
most of the trade deals i see on this board are like the worst Vegas “system” plans I’ve seen, or those investments newly contracted NBA players with literal tons of cash get suckered into.
we can actually spend some time developing. We don’t have to risk the homestead to get a likely scrub like pinto. Maybe White and Hagg for him.
wrt to Nylander… we aren’t going to be able to trade for him. Our only hope would be to lure him with cash and a performing team. Cash doesn’t work timing wise, and we aren’t performing yet, so anyone in this thread (including me) with designs on him is way way way premature. He’ll stick with TOR even if it requires a pay cut.
I think a lot of it will depend on what toronto does this year. Another year with no cup and hard contract negotiations and I think Nylander is fair game. Not that negotiations won´t be hard here 😄
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21 hours ago, Sexlaf15 said:
Connor Garland trade rumors swirling again. Still like the player a lot, could be had for pennies on the dollar, maybe even get the Nucks to retain.
I wouldn´t be against it either.
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10 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
wasn’t expecting this at all. That’s a ton of money for those guys.
Same. Don´t seem like the best deals either.
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4 hours ago, saskduckfan said:
According to TSN Insider Trading, Zegras and the Ducks have agreed on a 3 year contract however both side are still far apart when it comes to money. The news on Drysdale from them is both sides are far apart and not even close.
While I´m not a fan of these long negotiations I can understand the Zegras situation. What I don´t get is what´s taking so long with Drysdale?
The kid has zero leverage and I don´t believe PV is offering him Disneyland season tickets.
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1 hour ago, saskduckfan said:
Keep on flipping it. Neither signing is coming anytime soon. Verbeek is playing hard ball with these two for some reason basically going it's his way or else. Right now, a trade for both of them is getting more likely then signing with the Ducks. And if they do sign, dont expect either to stick around long term. Verbeek made a huge mistake with Drysdale not getting him signed before Sanderson. Just another one of his horrific moves that show he should not be a GM. It's so easy. Drysdale should get $3mil on 2 years just to showcase himself and Zegras 8.5-9mil. He is our best player. But Verbeek thinks otherwise.
That french 'article' you posted is a whole lot of nothing.
If Zegras really feels that way about the Terry extension I don´t mind seeing him pack his bags. There´s more to hockey than scoring michigans. Terry has been our best player. Not saying Zegras can´t be better but he hasn´t been so far.
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20 minutes ago, g20topdogg said:
I watched the Ducks rookie camp today and it was mentioned that Henrique, Fowler and McT were there watching. I get the first two, they're two veterans hoping to see the future of the team and kind of have that leadership role. But it's interesting that McT was there too. Maybe there is that captain aspect to it. Though I would think Terry and Fowler would be ahead of him on the chart, no?
McT looks to be a guy who eats, breathes and sh*ts hockey. It would be uncommon to name him captain given Terry´s extension and role but I can definitely see the captain material in McT.
I think McT is going to be the guy on this team.
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14 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
48 points in 76 games
49 points in 68 games
77 points in 80 games
signed that deal mid-September of 2019, after the 77-point season
Zegras only has 2 full seasons in, and in those first two seasons he has outpointed guys like M. Tkachuk, Aho, B. Tkachuk, Keller, Suzuki, Hischier, almost identical to Pettersson, in their first two seasons.
He out-pointed Kyle Connor in their first three seasons and Connor signed a $7.14 mil 7 year deal. Three years ago
None of those guys are making less than $7 mil - some are making $8 mil +, and those deals are years old. AND ALL of those guys have increased their point production after those first two seasons.
Not too familiar with those stats but thanks for looking it up. Nonetheless I wouldn´t give him more than 7M on a bridge deal.
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3 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
For who? GMPV? Of course.
For Zegras? That seems undervalued.
Here are three groups (in order). Guys making (AAV) $6.25 mil to $6.95 mil, guys making $7 to $7.75 mil, and guys making $7.8 mil to $8.5.
Where do you think he fits?
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active?stats-season=2023&limits=caphit-6250000-6950000
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active?stats-season=2023&limits=caphit-7100000-7750000
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active?stats-season=2023&limits=caphit-7800000-8500000
In group two I see Robertson, Ekblad, Hischier,... Zegras is not that so my proposed $6.5M doesn´t seem that far off. Maybe a little more or one year less but I wouldn´t go over 7.
Matthew Tkachuk signed a 3 year $7M AAV deal prior to his contract. I think he posted better numbers also.
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4 hours ago, perry_mvp said:
The Ducks would still be under the cap floor next season if Zegras got a $9M AAV and no, I don't think $9M is an overpay.
Do you really want to play games when you have very little high end forward talent on the team? And nothing in the pipeline except a kid you just drafted? Yes, I do think it would sour the relationship. Other teams are committing to their young talent long term. I think Terry's contract is just right. With Zegras, I think your paying for more than just stats. If the Ducks don't want him, I'm sure there are 31 other teams that do.
It´s not about playing games. It´s about paying players what they deserve and keep the club in good financial shape. Giving out $9M AAV just because we can isn´t the way to go.
If you ignore the stats (which are very good considering the abysmal state of our team) you have the fact that Zegras is ´marketable´ but apart from that there´s not very much to like about his game.
He runs his mouth too much, he takes dumb penalties, he´s not good at faceoffs and his defensive game is lacking. So IMO $9M is an overpay. Doesn´t mean I don´t like him. We have to keep him but I think a bridge deal is in both parties best interests.
It gives Zegras more time to develop his game because I believe he can be better in some of the abovementioned areas and the team should give him that opportunity. It gives the team time to see what he can become and what his role will be going forward (winger/center).
No idea about the numbers. Would 3 years at $6.5M would work?
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Adding Brodie and Liljegren to our abysmal d corps would definitely help. But losing Vatrano´s goals will definitely not help unless we play much better as a team. Robertson so far has been a lot of nothing. Maybe it helps getting his brother over here someday.
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5 hours ago, Aksun said:
At this precedent, I no longer want to bridge Drysdale @ $2.3, even if they're not comparable players. Hope Beek gets him somewhere below $1.5.
Says on CF.com that they can LTIR just 10M and now need 13M space (I can't imagine a player on the ducks commanding over 10M), must be some moves imminet to be cap compliant by the cut-off date?
He´s still signed for the upcoming season no? The extension kicks in next year.
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"The CBA (in Article 15, paragraph 4 if you like to read the original material) says teams must dress at least eight “veterans” for each preseason game. It’s significant that word is not capitalised because the definition does not tie out to how we use it in normal conversation.
A player is considered to be a “veteran” if they meet any one of the following criteria:
Skaters who played 30 NHL games the previous season..."
Maybe because of this? Basically just to have a warm body around.
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8 hours ago, HockeyIzCool said:
Still hopeful they'll get them done, but less than a month from training camp, with Zegras & Drysdale both unsigned.
I´d also like it to be done but it´s not uncommon I think. Bouchard, Lafreniere, Pinto and probably several others are also still unsigned.
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Excellent move. Not a trade that will put us over the top but he´s big and physical and led buffalo in blocked shots. That must satisfy Gibson to some extent.
Great work by PV. Now get those Zegras and Drysdale´s contracts signed.
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9 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
Lindstrom is a 38th OA pick. 24-year-old.
So the Ducks probably have to put Lacombe or Luneau or Warren in that deal, plus the fourth.
Apparently petry didn´t want to waive for san jose because he didn´t want to be too far away from his family. If that was really true he was never going to end up here, no matter what PV was putting on the table.
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4 hours ago, saskduckfan said:
His trades have been bad, his waiver pick ups have been bad and the majority of his free agent signings have been bad. Hiring a rookie GM to rebuild the team that knew nothing about being a GM was a disaster waiting to happen. Also his handling of his own assets has been horrible. Where's the Drysdale and Zegras signings? How come he didnt attach a pick to Klingberg to get a better return then a B prospect and 4th rd pick. We had three 2nd round picks we could have added to try to get more of a return. Better prospect and higher pick. His management has been questionable at best.
Isn´t it too early to judge his trades?
We got Gaucher out of the Lindholm trade. Too early to tell what we have in him but so far it looks promising. Also Damian Clara. No idea how he´ll turn out. I think we have another pick next year.
Same for the Manson trade. We have yet to see in what Helleson will develop. We also have Terrance from this year´s draft.
The Rakell trade gave us Clang and Luneau. Again very promising as far as Luneau is concerned.
The Klingberg signing was a great idea. Except nobody expected us to be this bad and him to be so terrible. It was a gamble worth taking that unfortunately for us backfired. It happens. But again maybe we have something in Nesterenko.
Not all of the aforementioned kids will become regular NHL´ers but a couple probably will.
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11 hours ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I think it's unlikely LaCombe doesn't make the opening night roster, unless he has an awful camp. I would see him playing alongside Gudas over Vaaks.
But we do still need that big minute guy on the right side (Severson? oh wait). Brett Pesce makes a ton of sense, if the Ducks can negotiate an extension with him first. But there's no indication Pesce would want to do that, and we know Verbeek isn't giving a 29-year-old anything more than five years. There really isn't a guy available through free agency. Ethan Bear is the closest, and he's never played more than 20 minutes per night in his career (season average).
We're going to end up with Tyler Myers, aren't we?
As dtsdlaw suggested, maybe petry is available. He´ll not be the answer to all our problems but he´s better than white and an injured Vaakanainen.
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33 minutes ago, g20topdogg said:
That's even less than my proposal of 1x5. He really really overplayed his hand in FA. Lol
But this also begs the question, why couldn't we get him? I'd pick him up with the intention of trading him at the deadline.
I´m disappointed as well but if he took a 1 year deal at that salary from arizona there must be something going on no? Unless he really really likes arizona for some reason.
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4 hours ago, g20topdogg said:
Ok so Terry likely saw the writing on the wall that he was going to get a split decision and signed a contract that was going to give him stability while also giving him $$. I'm still not a fan of the way PV went about this whole process so does the way Verbeek do things affect the way Zegras signs? Like is Verbeek also low balling Zegras in the hopes that he lowers his ask? I understand the way negotiations are don't but if he's indeed doing this to everyone, wouldn't that rub players the wrong way?
Maybe I'm just worrying too much about the way he does things.
I don´t like how it went down either but we don´t know what happened. Maybe Terry and Zegras tried to squeeze PV for extra dollars because of the rising cap. In that case he would be right. Just because extra money can be spend doesn´t mean we have to give it to them.
Although in Zegras situation it´s more of a to bridge or not to bridge situation I think.
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From the team´s POV you want max term on Z´s contract but I can easily see why he would want to bridge. Zegras is confident and if he thinks the team will be better in two years, his stats will be too hence more money. Maybe his buddy Drysdale (whom most certainly will get a bridge deal) can talk him out of it after missing a year with an injury.
Also Lundestrom´s injury might make him rethink a possible bridge deal too. Quite horrible I´m thinking that way but that is exactly why you should take the money. If Zegras pictures himself staying in Anaheim that is.
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Now I don´t have to take back the nice things I said about PV. Great contract.
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Great news. I really thought PV was going to screw this up. Now here´s to hoping he doesn´t trade him.
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37 minutes ago, Fisix said:
i think any GM that tries to make their decisions all on their own is going to be a horribly ineffective GM, whether it's because they haven't cultivated a group of friendly GMs they can call OR it's because they're bullheaded, myopic, and/or paranoid enough to think they don't benefit short and long term from reaching out.
i do wonder what TT has asked for, aside from cap hit, that Beek is seemingly balking at.
I´m not saying PV can never consult other GM´s. I meant in this particular case nobody should have to point out to him how important Terry is to this team. If he doesn´t realise that he picked the wrong job.
Drysdale injury
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Do we know something about the nature of the injury?