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20 hours ago, gotchabari said:
All right, now we're at 3 pathetic efforts in a row. And today's was against a team missing just about everyone while we were missing one guy.
What is the tipping point?
We're missing 'ONE guy."
No:
Zegras
Fowler
Comtois
Henrique
Jones
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43 minutes ago, gotchabari said:
I hope so, but then you get a Keystone Cops mess like last night and wonder.
The year the Ducks won the Cup, they played Philly at home. Philly was atrocious that season. Ducks lost something like 7-2. Teams are always going to play stinker games. We can only hope it's a one off and not the start of a losing streak.
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Rumors floating around Jakob Chychrun (Az) LHD is available for trade. Has 3 years left at a cap hit of 4.6M. Ask is high, but I could see a package starting with our 1st and Comtois. At 23 he fits right in with our rebuild.
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1 hour ago, tommer-1 said:
Guys the Ducks should re-sign who are pending UFAs:
Lindholm
Rakell (unless the return is too good to pass up)
Getzlaf
Guys the Ducks should CONSIDER keeping who are pending UFAs:
Carrick
Lettieri
Guys the Ducks should NOT keep who are pending UFAs:
Deslauriers
Manson
Guys the Ducks should keep who are pending RFAs:
Lundestrom
Milano
Benoit
Guys the Ducks should NOT keep who are pending RFAs:
Steel
Guys the Ducks should look to trade who have term:
Grant
Henrique
Silfverberg
Shattenkirk
To me, that's the road map. I would try to keep one of Manson/Shattenkirk, at least one of Carrick/Lettieri and one-to-two of Rakell/Henrique/Silfverberg.Move on from Deslauriers and Steel.
Make room for McTavish, Perreault, and a young D or two for the 6th and 7th slot..
Milano/Zegras/Rakell (?)
McTavish/Getzlaf/Terry
Comtois/Lundestrom/Perreault
Jones/Groulx/Carrick
Lettieri
Lindholm/Drysdale
Fowler/Shattenkirk
Benoit/
Mahura/Drew/Andersson/Thrun/Lacombe
Ducks sent McTavish down to specifically work on the C position. If he plays for the big club next season, I would substitute him for Grouix. I don't see him playing wing upon a recall. If Getzlaf retires, then obviously that changes things.
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Had season seats in the lower bowl until we tried one season in the 300 level. Haven't gone back down to the 200 level ever since. I think the 300 level has great site lines.
Other than the box office, I think "714tickets" is the way to go. I know they're right across the street from the Honda Center. Or check some of the Ducks sites on FB. There's usually season ticket holders posting tickets for sale.
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Various sites are now listing their top 10 candidates to be traded at the deadline. The lists I saw not one Duck was mentioned.
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3 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I don't think this one is getting topped any time soon...unless Zegras does something cooler next game.
"The Michigan." Only a matter of time. 🤞
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3 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:
I’m old enough to remember pending UFA Cory Perry signing his 8-year contract on March 18, 2013, just 3 weeks before the trade deadline.
And Getzlaf shortly before that.
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33 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
If those players aren’t re-signing in Anaheim then they have to be traded. IMO, it doesn’t matter if they are in the playoff hunt. They are gone and the team isn’t winning a Cup keeping them together.
I just don’t get what the hold up is if both Lindholm and the Ducks want to make a deal.
As far Drysdale living with Lindholm, it’s hard for me to read into. Fowler lived with Niedermeyer for his pro season right after Scott retired. They never played together. Maybe it’s a similar situation in that they want a mentor for Drysdale for his first full normal NHL season rather than they are keeping Lindholm long term. Who knows lol
First bold = what's the rush? Deadline is March 21.
Second bold = Then let Fowler mentor him. They moved Drysdale in with Lindholm in late November (not during the preseason). There's no hockey for a month because of the Olympics, and if Lindholm gets traded, Drysdale is out sometime mid/ late March. That's stupid. Makes no sense. Anyway, that's my take. If Lindholm is traded then Murray and Solomon are the new stars of a Dumb and Dumber sequel.
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Why would the Ducks have Drysdale move in with Lindholm and mentor him if there's a possibility he's leaving? Let him live with Fowler then. It makes no sense. So the speculation is at the trade deadline Drysdale is living alone and needing to move because Lindholm is now gone. Even worse conundrum is if the Ducks are still in the playoff hunt. "Thanks for the effort team, we're still trading Lindholm (Rakell and Manson for that matter)." I could see the team moving on from Manson at the deadline, but if by some miracle we're still in the hunt I think Rakell stays too. I admit I may be wrong, but moving Drysdale in with Lindholm seems to me a no brainer he's staying. If not, then Solomon is a bigger idiot than Murray.
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He's no longer on the roster. The Ducks evidently sent him back to the Gulls
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37 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
Hampus is going to be the best defensemen available. The only reason he wouldn’t get 8 mil + is maybe name recognition. He’s a premier shutdown defensemen scoring at a 20-30 point pace this season in the middle of his prime. He’s got size and first round pedigree. He’s also been healthy all season so far. If he keeps it up, he’s cashing in big time.
I really doubt Lindholm is whispering in JD’s ear evil thoughts lol. It’s probably good that JD learns how to manage that aspect of being a professional athlete.
17 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:If Hampus wants to take a home town discount and sign with us for under market value, I’m in. I just think that 7-9 million dollars could be used to better suit the team on their current timeline, signing Z, JD, Terry, Etc. Or taking on cap for picks and prospects, or signing an impact FA when the team is ready for a playoff push.
Your first bolded comment is the reason he should stay. Him mentoring Drysdale only adds to his importance. There is nobody in the system that can step in and replace him. Nobody. Going the UFA route to replace him will do nothing for the club. You're going to have to pay a premium and give max term for a player that's not as good as Lindholm. Keep him and watch Drysdale flourish.
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The Ducks did burn a year off of his ELC last year. We absolutely sucked, and the club could have easily restricted him to 9 games (same with Drysdale) which means he would have another 2 years making under 1M. By burning that 3rd year, he's gonna get big money one year earlier. Tit for tat imo. He's not gonna care one bit about reaching UFA status one year later.
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48 minutes ago, dtsdlaw said:
Nobody is going to give Lindholm $8.5M in UFA either. He doesn't score enough and he has a recent injury history. If he gets more than $7.5M in UFA, I'll be shocked. I still say the Ducks keep him for around $6.75M-$7M/season.
I'm also curious if anyone else thinks that Drysdale moving in with Lindholm impacts the likelihood of whether Lindholm re-signs here. I can't help but wonder if that situation comes about if the Ducks and Lindholm are still very far apart on an extension. Is it common for a team to ask a pending UFA, who is likely to be traded if extension negotiations don't go well, to open up his home to the team's #1 defensive prospect? I honestly don't know the answer, but it sure seems like it'd be a less-than-desirable situation if Hampus is really on the block. I mean, does the team really want Lindholm to have Drysdale's ear every morning at the breakfast table when he talks about his contract negotiations and his free agency options next season? Seems like a bad idea to me if they aren't already closing in on an extension.
My thoughts exactly. Makes zero sense to have Lindholm move Drysdale in, mentor him, then trade him at the deadline. I'm not seeing it (not to mention they're also D partners).
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33 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
If Lindholm wants to re-sign, then I wouldn’t mind it depending on cost and contingent with trading Fowler in the very near future. I’d move Rakell and Manson. Of course, anyone not re-signed before the TDL needs to get moved.
Watching Fowler completely shut down Ovechkin I just don't get the Fowler hate.
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11 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Are the Ducks a contending team if they keep Lindholm, Manson and Rakell though? If you end moving some of them out it seems like you’ll be getting futures more than younger, NHL contributors. Getting another late first round pick in a deep draft wouldn’t be a bad thing either. More than half of the young players that you mentioned to hopefully start stepping into the lineup are late first round picks or were taken even later.
I think extending most of the pending UFAs is a mistake even given the hot start up the season. You’ve gotta make room for the next wave of guys in the near future.
Who would you keep and who would you let go?
I think it's imperative we resign Lindholm. He's the perfect mentor for Drysdale. Losing him would set this team back imo.
Interesting stat last night vs Washington. Ovechkin leads the NHL in shot attempts. Last night he had ONE shot all night (admit team taking zero penalties helped with that) being guarded by Fowler. I can see trading Manson at the deadline, but I like their pairing.
I'm on the fence with Rakell. He started strong, but another injury has sidelined him, and the team is rolling without him.
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Sad to see the Honda Center basically empty on a Sunday night with a team riding a 6 game win streak. Per game notes there were 11,892 fans in attendance. I was there. No way were that many people there. I'll see what the Washington game looks like.
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The Ducks have always been tight lipped about trade proposals. In the very beginning Murray said the ONLY two untouchables were Drysdale and Zegras. He said everybody else was on the table. Murray also knew the Eichel/Buffalo impasse had to do with the type of surgery each party wanted performed. I may be naive, I admit it, but I think the story Murray was out if Eichel didn't have surgery first with Buffalo is just that, a story. It keeps the media at bay and Murray then wouldn't be expected/asked to name potential trade candidates. Now with Murray gone, that info has been buried imo, unless Kevin Adams says something.
It just doesn't make sense to insist Eichel have surgery first, UNLESS Murray relented and made Zegras available, but only under the condition Eichel was able to skate at 100%. We may never know.
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From what I just read, the NHL has recently installed an anonymous hotline # to call to report questionable or inappropriate behavior. They didn't define "recently" but it wouldn't surprise me if this was initiated in response to the Chicago situation. The hotline # received a call regarding Murray, and an investigation was initiated.
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3 hours ago, Spencer_12 said:
I would absolutely equate our #3 pick to Krebs. I was against trading it from the start. I wouldn’t do McTavish for Krebs straight up, but that’s me, not Buffalo. I don’t really think you can make the assessment that McTavish was never in the conversation since that’s never been reported by anyone. We know that Zegras/Drysdale were nonstarters and that’s about it.
My main issue isn’t that Murray wasn’t trying to make the team better; it’s more that Lindholm, Rakell, and Manson are still on the roster with nothing but a holding pattern in sight. If he gets good value for those 3 at the deadline then I can accept it, but if Rakell and Manson don’t bring back enough I’ll be questioning Murray. I don’t question Lindholm’s value at the deadline. I have no problems with Murray not trying to make the team better over the summer. I do have problems with not getting the most for our expiring assets.
At the last trade deadline, there was only ONE trade made with players that had term on their contracts (Lindholm/Rakell/Manson all had one more year). Any team trading for them would have had to protect them in the expansion draft. We could have traded them before the start of the season, but all three were coming off a mediocre season. Could their value been any lower? I'm hoping we resign Lindholm (who is going to mentor Drysdale with him gone?) and Rakell. Any improvement from Manson (or the other two) will only increase their value at the deadline.
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21 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
Zegras, Terry, Pastujov, Perrault, Comtois, Zellweger, top draft pick this year. Lots to be excited about. I’m not heart broken about Eichel, just love the player and the dude so it’s a bummer he’s playing for one of my most disliked teams.
No McTavish love. Shame.
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2 minutes ago, yeaitsme said:
We all know that he’s a master at holding on to things until they expire. I was in the trade for Eichel camp since the beginning , but with the teams play so far , I’ve happily slipped out in the middle of the night to the other camp.
I'm still in the Eichel camp. I would offer up Comtois, Steel/Jones, Larsson/Mahura, and a conditional 2022 1st. Maybe sub Lundestrom for Steel/Jones. Throw in the Kesler contract.
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2 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Silfverberg has been removed from the Ducks roster and the speculation freak out begins lol
He's back.
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32 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Silfverberg has been removed from the Ducks roster and the speculation freak out begins lol
Put me in the "wtf???" column.
Are We There Yet?
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Listing Eichel as missing is just plain stupid.
I don't know, the last time I paid any attention, I didn't recall anyone having the Ducks team on par with Vegas. You may be a Vegas fan, but as far as the Ducks are concerned, I wouldn't discount the importance of Fowler or Zegras to the team. They're not in as esteemed company as Pacioretty and Stone, but they're valuable to the Ducks. I don't get putting the Ducks on par with Vegas to begin with. The season so far has been a pleasant surprise, and yes there's going to be hiccups along the way. I don't understand the need to ridicule. Vegas was, and is, a deeper club than the Ducks.