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10 hours ago, CAsFirstCup said:
I've noticed the same thing. The players that GMBM traded away, let go, or couldn't keep make up a much better team than the Ducks currently have. I understand some of it: we had to lose a player to Vegas in the expansion draft, Montour was traded for a first round pick, Bonino was traded to get Kesler, Perron left as a UFA to play in his preferred location of St. Louis. But there are some boneheaded trades in there that are maddening. The worst one was trading away Kyle Palmieri at age 24 for a 2nd round draft pick when he was coming off a season scoring at a 20 goal per 82 game pace. He then average 26+ goals a year over the next 5 seasons for the Devils. And he is tearing it up in the playoffs for the Islanders. Another terrible one was trading Patrick Maroon for a 4th round pick plus prospect Martin Gernat less than a year after he had scored 7 goals in 16 games in the 2015 playoffs. He went on to score 27 goals the next season for the Oilers and played a key role for the Blues and Lightning winning Stanley Cups the past two seasons.
Hopefully we Ducks fans will only have to suffer one more year with Bob Murray as GM.
I've had issues with Murray also, but I don't play the 20/20 hindsight card. EVERY GM makes "boneheaded trades" during their tenure. But I get it. Murray just bad. Worst trade of all.... trading Kase to Boston for Backes, a 1st round pick (Jacob Perreault) and D prospect Axel Andersson.
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8 minutes ago, hoxxey said:
it's been said previously but the Tampa goalkeeper is total MONEY in elimination games! Another shutout! All I can say is WOW.
Get him and never let him go.
His 8 year extension with Tampa Bay kicks in next year.
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1 hour ago, nieder said:
I think anyone except Zegras and Drysdale should be on the table, that includes Gibson if the offer is big enough.
Murray has already said all names are on the table except Zegras and Drysdale.
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Ducks have missed the playoffs 3 straight years, and haven't won a playoff series in 4. Watching the last Habs/Leafs game, I was struck by the comment Toronto has not won a playoff series in 17 years. We've been really spoiled imo. I'm as frustrated as anybody with our current situation, but realistically I didn't expect Murray/Eakins to be fired.
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18 hours ago, HockeyIzCool said:
True, but it's far more lopsided when there are practically no Ducks fans buying tickets, aside from the SS Holders. So Cal fans are all into the bandwagon, and they don't pay money to show up when the team is sucking.
I don't know how long I can feel taken advantage of, paying for season seats, when I could pick and choose games on Stub Hub for prices of half the price I'm paying.
That's why it's called being a "fan." Having had seats since day 1, I understand there's going to be "growing pains" along the way. I understand there's going to be down periods. Happens to EVERY team. As Fisix said, love my seats (which would be gobbled up in a heartbeat if I dropped them), found decent food, and made great friends over the years. Nothing like live hockey imo.
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1 hour ago, MooseDuck said:
According to the Website Fourth Period....Ducks are name one of the spots To Land Eichel.
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Big time damaged goods. Not interested unless the price to get him drops significantly.
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Reading about the Eichel injury, if I were the Ducks I would take a hard pass on trading for him. Eichel wants experimental artificial disc replacement surgery, while Buffalo wants rehab and at worst disc fusion surgery if rehab fails. Problem with replacement surgery is there's no long term studies on athletics (physical players) that have had the surgery. You're talking about the neck area too, where one bad hit into the boards could be catastrophic. If there's a drop in asking from Buffalo, then I might revisit, but with the Ducks history of career ending health issues (Souray, Eaves, Despres, Kesler) I think I would look elsewhere.
As far as the 2022 pick is concerned, I would think with a full season of Zegras, Drysdale, Lindholm and Manson (if still here) and new coaches on the PP, we're better by default. Throw in some expected maturation from other younger players, I don't see the Ducks as a top 5 lottery team next season. 🤞
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Poor Florida. I thought I heard a stat last night where they said they had not won a playoff series since 1996. Now they start off 0-2 at home in round 1.
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I think in the regular season Minnesota only lost 1 game against Vegas in regulation. Something like a 5-1-2 record. Great game #1.
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Actually, teams up against the cap and facing decisions with their UFA/RFA players could work to our advantage. We have the cap space. My only issue with players like Landeskog (not going anywhere imo), RNH, etc., is if testing the market, they're gonna want 7 years. They're at the tail ends of their prime years, and we'd have them into their mid 30's. That's why Eichel makes so much sense, but man, his injury issues have me concerned (that and the asking price).
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Lindholm played 18 games and Manson 23 games all season. Half of our top 4 was out over 50% of the season. Yes, we brought Drysdale up, but there was also the expected growing pains with him. I know injuries can't be predicted, but I have to believe our record would have been better with both playing the majority of the season.
I don't think there would be a significant obstacle trading Gibson after this year. Maybe I'm wrong, but a 10 team NTC (assuming most teams listed are crap) doesn't seem overly problematic.
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45 minutes ago, Pazonator said:
Nhltraderumors has the kings making an offer
I assume you meant on Jack Eichel (not Gibson).
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13 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Maybe the Ducks will be pursued this offseason also.
If the whole article was quoted, it would have included how much Gibson loves playing for Anaheim and has zero desire to play anywhere else.
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7 hours ago, HockeyIzCool said:
So his reward for sucking so bad, is that he gets to make our pick in the ED?
Since when do teams fire their GM's AFTER the Draft? I don't buy it. If ownership wanted to send a message and get rid of him, they would have done it on Monday.
I'll predict it now. He's not going anywhere, and neither is Eakins. Though I am not against Eakins staying as much as I am against Murray being able to make decisions through the 21-22 season.
I'm so glad I moved my seats so I'm now paying 1/3rd of what I had been. I don't expect next season to be much different, and months from now, we'll still be here bashing BM, and his poor decisions.
Ownership really doesn't care. But they do care about people coming to the arena and spending money on parking, food, drinks & merchandise. I can tell you right now, that when crowds return later this year to 100% capacity arenas, Honda Center is going to struggle reaching 10K attendance most nights. If I wasn't an original season seat holder, I'd not go anywhere near season tickets, because it's going to be easy getting good tickets for 1/2 face value almost every night.
Pick? If any team is going to pick, it will be Seattle.
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45 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
Dude,
The team beat NHL record for worst PP in modern history: barely over 9%, scored 11 goals and allowed 5. Worse goals differential in the league, shaky goaltending, bad soft defense and non-existent offence. This is ground zero, and you are right: somebody here is really blind.
I agree with almost everything you posted (Buffalo had the worst goal differential). I just disagree with some of the players you claim "regressed." And like you said, we can disagree. Troy Terry improved. Gibson stats were similar to last year. How many games did we have the top 4D in the lineup at the same time? How many games did he start where we were missing our top 2? I don't think it's fair to list Silf. Having season ending hip surgery probably explains the "regression" more than anything. I just disagree listing injured players. Like saying Lindholm regressed.
I just took exception primarily to you listing Troy Terry.
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1 hour ago, FanSince1993 said:
Unfortunately, from the group you listed above, I would only emphasize Comtois and Stolarz. The rest of them will be average or below average players.
The list of who regressed this season: Gibson, Fowler, Silfverberg, Terry, Steel, Larsson, GM Bob Murray, HC Dallas Eakins, PP consultants.. Someone may disagree with me, but it's my personal opinion. based on what I saw this season.
You're blind.
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2 hours ago, nieder said:
Yes. Next tiebreaker is ROW which the Ducks win. So Buffalo would need to pass us in points in that scenario.
However let's say Anaheim lose the final 3 games in regulation, and Buffalo wins 1 of their remaining 2 games in regulation. We would be equal on points but Buffalo would be ahead in the standings as they would have 1 more regulation win.
It could happen.
Unless I'm missing something, you just contradicted your own post. On the one hand, you said "next tiebreaker is ROW..."
Then you say if equal on points, "Buffalo would be ahead in the standings as they would have 1 more regulation win."
If the tiebreaker is regulation AND OT wins, then what difference does it make if Buffalo has one more regulation win?
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10 hours ago, HockeyIzCool said:
Buffalo 2 points behind, with 2 games remaining. Ducks have 3 games. Same # of Regulation Wins. I think next tiebreaker is Goals Differential? If so, Sabres have -56 and we have -52.
Isn't the measurement Regulation/Overtime wins (instead of just regulation)? If that's the case, Buffalo has 11 while the Ducks have 15.
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4 hours ago, CAsFirstCup said:
I expect them to lose 3 out of the remaining 4 games in regulation, which would be enough even if the Devils lose all 5 of their remaining games. New Jersey also still has a game left with Philly so they probably won't lose all 5. But anything can happen, so you are right. I still thoroughly enjoyed the Ducks win last night. Was at the Pond when Miller set the record for most wins as an American born goalie 2 years ago and wish I was there last night.
We were there last night. Definitely had a great time.
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14 hours ago, CAsFirstCup said:
Devils are about to wrap up their 3rd straight win over Philly which will open up a 4 point lead over the Ducks 🙂.
I was going to root for a Ducks win tonight anyway, being Ryan Miller's last home game, but now it looks like winning won't cost them the #2 draft position going into the lottery.
They're only 2 points ahead of the Ducks. Ducks do own the tie breaker I believe with the lowest # of regulation wins. I wouldn't celebrate just yet though. Kind of superstitious that way.
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7 hours ago, Spike1981 said:
he said the same thing I said. Tank the rest of the way for 2 things: to get a better pick and let fire Eakins. and the whole Getzlaf thing, its not disrespect against him if you let him play on the 4th line and give the kids more ice time, we bought out Perry to give him a chance to go to a contender (and btw he almost won the cup last season and this season who knows..).
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14 hours ago, Jasoaks said:
exactly...maybe Peterson is the guy after Quick, but who knows...they do have some time before Byfield and Turccotte are really regulars. And Kayliev.
Also, I just can't root for them to lose. I'd rather see players like Terry and Jones and Fleury and Drysdale etc... look great and make progress and score goals and feel good about the players they are developing into. And also NOT develop bad habits...No player is TRYING to tank or lose. So, I'd rather they win...they will feel better and arguably better players/more confident...but when they ultimately don't...I use the "higher draft pick" as a way to not feel so bad haha
Honestly...I think even right now Eakins/coaching staff is definitely trying to win eevry game and has no intention of "tanking" ....wouldn't think it with the way they coach.......
EDIT: actually, that's not true. I was trying to be funny but I actually think so much of the season from the coaching staff was "feel out the team/players first THEN try to win" so I actually don't think winning was a top priority for the coaching staff this season...they still need to go though...'cause they have not....ugh...have not evolved well....
I could not disagree with you more. I absolutely believe Murray and company thought the Ducks would compete for a playoff spot. I have no doubt coaches and management felt we were a top 4 team in our division going into the season.
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32 minutes ago, CAsFirstCup said:
For the upcoming draft Seattle will be slotted as if they finished with the 3rd worst record. So the difference between finishing with the 3rd worst record, as the Ducks currently have, and the 2nd worst record is huge. Odds of having a top 3 pick would increase from 19.6% to 55.5% if the Ducks fell behind New Jersey or Buffalo in the standings.
Since Buffalo will also have our pick (😛🤞) I don't think it matters. With no Lindholm, Manson (?), Lundestrom, Silf., for the foreseeable future, I don't see the Ducks finishing strong.
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2 hours ago, Fisix said:
why the frak did i just waste my time listening to this Dehydrated Donkey Dung?
To be fair, you were instructed to listen from the 57 minute mark (not the entire thing). If you did, you heard what Murray said to Shattenkirk (😱) regarding the team. I too will not spoil what Murray was alleged to have said. Remember, this interview was done before the season started.
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