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12 hours ago, FanSince1993 said:
Gibson have to be better, if this team hopes to make playoffs a few years from now. Average goaltending will not take us anywhere.
Your constant criticism of Gibson befuddles the mind, but be that as it may, the last two goals were not on him. You can't blame a ricochet goal or seeing eye goal on Gibson imo. He made a couple of spectacular saves that kept the Ducks in the game. I would focus more on the players in front of him instead.
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53 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
I think that is pretty much in line with what the Ducks would have to offer to keep him.
Do we start trading away Zellweger, Thrun, Lacombe if Hampus comes back?
If the Ducks are going to re-sign Lindholm then it should be before the March 21st trade deadline. No way you can risk keeping him after that if he isn't re-signed. Getzlaf and Perry re-signed a month before the 2013 trade deadline so the Ducks could have traded them if they couldn't agree to extensions. I can't recall back then if there was any serious belief that they did not want to re-sign. Of course, the Ducks also weren't in a clear rebuild back which is different to what where they are now.
Fair point. I totally forgot about the trade deadline. Back then the consensus was Getzlaf would sign and Perry would test the market. Nobody thought Murray would be able to sign both of them. Anyway, I'm not concerned Lindholm hasn't signed yet.
I would love to be a fly on the wall right now with regards to Rakell (who Lindholm is best friends with) and his possible contract extension. Four goals in 6 games doesn't hurt his bargaining position, especially if he keeps this up. Also doesn't hurt his trade value.
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17 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Yeah, there’s still a chance to get a deal done but then it begs the question why if hasn’t if both sides have mutual interest. If Lindholm was agreeable to an 8-year contract at 7M AAV or less then I think Murray would have re-upped him already. There’s just nothing to indicate that the sides are remotely close to a deal or that discussions are actively going on.
What would be your max, take it or leave it offer to Lindholm?
When Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry signed their 8 year contract extensions, they didn't sign until March 8 and March 18, 2013 respectively of their UFA seasons. Their new contracts went into effect the 2013-2014 season. If Lindholm doesn't sign before April 1, 2022 then I might get concerned.
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Just because Lindholm hasn't signed an extension by now doesn't necessarily mean he wants out and wants to test the market as a UFA. The one thing the Ducks can offer that other teams can't is an 8th year to any new contract. That's significant. I also think the team will be trending up after a couple of seasons. Say Ducks offer 6.75 x 8yrs = 54M (that's 7.71 x 7 for same $ amount) to stay and continue to live in Newport Beach. Very tempting offer. If a team is willing to go 9M, then I wish him well.
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Those that advocate trading Lindholm, who replaces him in our lineup? He's only 27 and shows no signs of slowing down. I'm in the camp that wants to give him an 8yr extension around 6.5M per.
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16 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Agreed with the bolded but with that not happening, I still think you need to be fielding calls and looking to move him instead of waiting until the deadline. I think you get a first and an meh prospect.
A team like the Isles should give up a first round pick and if they get Lindholm now, with salary retained, that bodes well for their seeding and potential playoff path, which should give the Ducks more of a return. Adding Lindholm to that back end could put them over the top.
How does their success give the Ducks MORE of a return. I don't get it. The better the Isles do, the worse their #1 pick becomes. If getting Lindholm "puts them over the top" then their #1 pick is #32. Big deal. Basically you're then trading Lindholm for a 2nd rounder. No?
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The Athletic came out with their ranking of all 32 starting G in the league, and Gibson was #5. Basically saying a star G on a crappy team. I'll never understand those that continually bash him. Thankfully others know his real value.
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I decided to add DirecTV streaming instead of changing cable providers. Adds another $100 a month to my cable bill. Real simple to install as long as one has an open HDMI port on the back of their TV.
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12 hours ago, gotchabari said:
Wow. He seems very unstable.
Why? He's been in the league since 2010 and in that time observed plenty. With the Eichel debacle he's deciding to speak out on what he's seen. His first tweet was today and already the NHL wants to meet with him to discuss his statement. Good for him.
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1 hour ago, FanSince1993 said:
so quiet on the Ducks news front. No interviews, recent updates, analysis, trade rumors....nothing. Only Elliott Teaford in OC Register writes some statistical article once in a while. Looks like the Ducks are the least covered team in the entire NHL.
Subscribe to The Athletic. Eric Stephens has an article on the Ducks a couple of times a week at least.
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5 minutes ago, Fisix said:
They do the same thing in a ton of venues for drinking alcohol vs underage. Wristbands work just fine.
Fisix, you're smarter than that. At venues where alcohol is served, wristbands have to be worn AT THE CONCESSION STANDS where alcohol is being purchased to prove you're 21 years of age. That's what they do at the OC Fair.
You're sitting at the Honda Center watching a Ducks game, wearing a wristband that's covered by your jersey or jacket. NOBODY is going to approach you at your seat, and ask you to show them your wristband. Come on.
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18 hours ago, gotchabari said:
Seems like it will be a nightmare as it is. EIther have a mask requirement or don't. Us vaccinated can still spread, so in such a large venuw without spacing, I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if it's 50/50, you basically have no requirement unless you're asking the workers to continue to ask for status.
Has anyone even paid any attention to those that are wearing masks? Half of them have the mask below their noses. I would love to have a dollar for everyone who wears their mask incorrectly. You think the ushers are going to police everyone exposing their nostrils?
And DTS is right, the coaches (who have to be vaccinated), are standing behind their players (who are unmasked, but vaccinated), but in front of a plexiglass divider, wearing a mask. Then they're removing their mask every time they have something to say. It's ludicrous.
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22 hours ago, Pazonator said:
Hello! Kraken just announced that they will require proof of vax to attend games. Have the Ducks made any kind of announcement like this? I hope they don’t 👎🏽
The info is on the Honda Center website. Proof of vax required (or negative test 72 hrs prior to event) and goes into effect Sept. 20.
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8 hours ago, HockeyIzCool said:
The article states a BIG move the Ducks could make is to acquire Eichel. Unless one has just emerged from a cave, like within the last 24 hours, everyone knows the Ducks are trying to do exactly that.
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15 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I don't think you can. At that point, you'd need to get the Center Ice package, but I see you're in Huntington Beach, so Ducks games would be blacked out for you. At that point, you're looking at internet streaming or using a VPN.
That's what I was afraid of. Did the streaming last year. Can be quite frustrating. I don't want to go through the hassle of changing cable providers, so I acknowledge this predicament is of my own choosing.
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I think Bally Sports is only available through DirecTV and Spectrum. Please educate me how to get it if I don't have either cable provider.
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1 hour ago, nieder said:
That's what I meant, too bad it didn't happen right before his NMC kicks in. Could save $10M for this season which is going to be a load of crap anyway.
I think we can safely say that is the plan this season. Murray has still added nobody to the second worst team in the league. I wonder how he convinced Getzlaf to return to this dumpster fire.
I guess I'm not as negative on this upcoming season. Not saying we're making the playoffs, but I'm not seeing us finish 31st in the league either. And to be honest, to have any realistic chance at the #1 pick we have to finish bottom 3. Puck luck and Ducks are not synonymous with each other. I understand it's a deep draft, but significant pieces come within the top 5 picks (yes exceptions abound).
Last year was a major cluster F. Our PP set a record for futility. That's not happening this year. By default, we'll be better. Injuries will always play a factor, but last year 2 of our top 4 D missed over half the games played (Lindholm missed 38 games, Manson 33). While we were abysmal at home (6-18-4), we were fairly consistent on the road (11-12-5). Our road GAA placed 10th in the league.
Let's see what happens with a healthy Lindholm, Manson, Silfverberg and a full year from Zegras and Drysdale. Maybe for once we have a fairly healthy year. Continued improvements from some of the kids, plus a rebound season from Rakell may result in a team not as bad as many predict. We'll see.
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23 minutes ago, nieder said:
IMO if we trade for Eichel its to make this team better 1-2 years from now, not next season. He could miss half the season and it wouldn't really matter. This team sucks this season either way. It's too bad all this drama didn't happen 12 months from now.
Since Eichel has a NMC that kicks in after this season, I assume there would be no drama as far as the Ducks are concerned. It's now or never.
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38 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
why are we still discussing this topic? This Eichel guy is a talented player but not a person who makes people comfortable around him. He clashed with his coach, GM, organization, does not trust team doctors, fired his agent, and refused to take care of his injured neck during 5 months off-season time. Now I hear the stories that if he does his "artificial" disc replacement surgery, he may miss most of next season and there is a risk he may not be the same player anymore. And yet some people on this forum write 20 paragraphs essay thinking that we need to trade most of our farm system in exchange for this guy and his $10 mil salary?
Sorry, but I don't want this potential cancer on my team.
1st bold - source
2nd bold - If he has the surgery he wants (disc replacement) the recovery time is about 6 weeks. If he has the surgery the team wants him to have (disc fusion) recovery time is 6-9 MONTHS.
I'm not an orthopedist, but I "assume" if they fuse two or three discs in his neck together he will not "be the same player anymore" since his neck range of motion will be compromised. If anything, disc replacement surgery would practically minimize that issue.
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15 hours ago, MooseDuck said:
Manson,Deslauriers and Rakell should have been traded. Not trading them is miscalucation on Stubborn Bob's part.
DuckPride 4ever
MooseDuck
At the trade deadline last year, there was only ONE trade involving players with term (more than one year on their contract). Any team trading for the players you mentioned would have had to protect them in the Entry Draft. Teams had trouble protecting their own players. Trade them this off season maybe, but with Rakell scoring 9 goals and Manson hurt most of the season, their value right now is at its lowest level imo. If the team flounders, and the players you mentioned have a decent season going, I think their trade value will be higher at the deadline.
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15 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Yeah, I don't think that Buffalo is going to trade Eichel on the cheap to the Ducks or anyone. They'll get a good return but their fan base will likely be disappointed with it. As far as his injury and surgery options, I do not know who will blink first between him or the Sabres and a trade isn't happening until that gets figured out. It's already at the point that he won't be ready for the start of the regular season.
It really is surprising that Rakell, Lindholm, Manson and especially Henrique are all still on this team. I thought that Henrique would have been traded by now. The Ducks maybe the only team who can tank better by not making roster changes lol. It's just maddening not knowing what Murray's bleeping plan is while Rome burns here.
If Eichel has the surgery he wants, recovery time is 6 weeks.
Lindholm should be resigned if in the $7M range. He's our best defenseman and his skill set ages well. If the team flounders (which seems inevitable but one never knows), Rakell and Manson should be traded at the deadline. Their value right now is not nearly as good as it "could" be if they rebound this season.
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1 hour ago, FanSince1993 said:
2 goals in 19 games last season. He injury is more serious the most people think. The offseason is almost over and didn't even do a surgery. Let him stay in Buffalo.
Actually 2G in 21 games. Failed to mention his 16A (which results in a goal). So 18 points in 21 games playing with a jacked up neck. Over 82 games that's 70 points. Just saying.
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1 hour ago, tommer-1 said:
FWIW Isn't that site complete fan fiction, with no real insiders?
I don't know. I don't ever go there. But i just did, and that's what it looks like.
For What It's Worth.
A broken clock is more accurate than anything on Hockeybuzz. The Ducks correspondent also writes for the Kings/Sharks and maybe Seattle. The comments can be entertaining at times though.
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21 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:
Source?
Hockeybuzz/Eklund
FWIW, posted yesterday.
2021-2022 NHL Season Catch-all
in NHL Talk
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One doesn't need to touch a flame to know it's hot.
When I was in college, we took a field trip to a courthouse to observe a case for the day. We chose the case. I happened to choose a rape case, and that particular day it just so happened the victim was scheduled to testify (answer the defense attorney questions). For the next few hours I sat there as the attorney tried to paint a picture of the rapist as the victim and the victim as the aggressor. I watched her anguish on the stand as every intimate detail of their encounter was dissected. To sit there and listen to this poor woman relive that experience was painful for me. Those of us that happened to observe the trial that day were deeply affected. On the bus ride back to school, some of the women broke down in tears, men got choked up trying to talk about what they had just observed. I completely understand why a victim doesn't come forward right away. I can understand why a victim would wait a decade or more before saying something. I can understand why a victim never says a word about the encounter. I could say more, but I'll leave it at that.