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Whoa, we didn’t move back
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1 hour ago, Sexlaf15 said:
I’m not someone who thinks the lotto is rigged, but man they do themselves no favors. Last year the Columbus pick gets leaked early by their host and their prized organization mired in controversy is the only team that moves up and gets a generational superstar. This year their host tweets out a photo of what looks to be the draft lotto results like 5 hours early lol.
At least I can yell *F*** Bettman!” when we fall in the order.
Just anyone but Chicago.
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32 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
I’m not someone who thinks the lotto is rigged, but man they do themselves no favors. Last year the Columbus pick gets leaked early by their host and their prized organization mired in controversy is the only team that moves up and gets a generational superstar. This year their host tweets out a photo of what looks to be the draft lotto results like 5 hours early lol.
We are finally going to get an answer to the long standing rigged draft question very soon!
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20 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
I’m not someone who thinks the lotto is rigged, but man they do themselves no favors. Last year the Columbus pick gets leaked early by their host and their prized organization mired in controversy is the only team that moves up and gets a generational superstar. This year their host tweets out a photo of what looks to be the draft lotto results like 5 hours early lol.
If the draft order turns out to be what Buccigross posted, it’s going to be an absolute gong show
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5 hours ago, perry_mvp said:
Did everyone forget about this thread? Seven out of ten when I did it we ended up 4th, two times 5th and one time stayed at 3rd. Stupid Tankathon.
40% chance we end up 4th. That’s what I’m bracing myself for.
Still quackin for Macklin though
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21 minutes ago, RGV004 said:
John Buccigross sent out a tweet of him at the Draft that was quickly deleted. It showed the board in the background. 1. San Jose - 2. Utah - 3. Chicago - 4. Anaheim.
That would suck, only good thing is Chicago not winning it but then we’d have Celebrini within the division
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17 minutes ago, Fisix said:
meh, facts not in evidence, then OR now.
can't we just buy his contract?
That’s not a precedent teams want to set. Just incentivizes Russian teams to hold onto to players longer imo
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1 hour ago, tommer-1 said:
There is no way they are buying him out. That is Kings' fanboy wet dream material.
Yep. Blake confirmed no buyout. Oh how I wish he becomes and cruise ship anchor to the kings with his contract
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
If he wants to get here sooner, I don't think he can afford to be picky. He's not as elite as Michkov who was in the KHL his draft year. Also, seven of the pre-draft lottery teams are in the western conference. Last year there were four eastern conference teams in the top 10. In a quirky draft where after Celebrini it's a hodgepodge of talent, he's still elite for this draft. I can't see him dropping below 5.
He may not be as good as michkov but in this draft he’s a top-3 talent imo so he’s got leverage. Players coming out of Russian leagues are more of a risk and if he wants to go to say Montreal and Montreal wants him then he can make that known despite an higher drafting team wanting him. Thats what michkov did and fell to seventh despite being arguably the 2nd best prospect last year. If he wants to come here then I’d be amped to draft him but don’t think Verbeek would. I think he’s going to Chicago if they don’t win Celebrini. -
16 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
There’s been some whispers of Demidov trying to get to North America asap.
Yeah I just don’t think he’s trying to get to Anaheim
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DuBois trying to get some redemption this year-
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8 hours ago, Spencer_12 said:
I don’t think Carlsson and Fantilli are good comparisons. Production isn’t the only thing I’m looking for, and while Carlsson and Fantilli weren’t lighting up the scoresheet at the U20’s you absolutely could see how their game would translate to the NHL. There were instances where they would have a shift that made you see how they were going to have a good chance to be impact players at that level. This was especially true at the Worlds with Carlsson. I went into that tournament full on the Fantilli train, and after watching every Sweden and Canada game I was 50/50 on them. That’s how impressive Carlsson was even without dominating the tournament.
That’s what I didn’t see out of Helenius. I saw some good things, some instances where I saw him do things that NHL players do in the same situation. I also saw him completely disappear at times, and never have a shift that made me think, “wow, this guy could be a star.” It was just 2 games though, so maybe he shows more at the Worlds, but one thing is it’s not like scouts are saying he’s got high-impact ability. They are saying the opposite, and so those two games stand out even more because they affirm what the scouts have been saying.
I’m not saying that helenius is in the tier of Leo or fantilli. Fantilli did not have a particularly good world junior tournament in his draft year. He was playing in a bottom-6 role but then had a much better showing at the world championships. That’s what will be interesting to see with Helenius. He wouldn’t be my pick but I definitely see him as a forward verbeek would be looking at in the 4/5 spot. Iginla also to an extent. I just don’t know if he values a forward over a RHD or silayev
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1 hour ago, Spencer_12 said:
I share similar concerns about Helenius as Sexlaf after watching him play a couple games at the U18’s. He was pretty invisible 5 on 5 in the quarterfinal against Sweden, and while I was more impressed at times in the game against the US he still wasn’t as dominant as I would expect from someone already playing pro hockey against men. That’s the biggest knock on him that I’ve read and Sexlaf mentioned, that he’s not dynamic and probably doesn’t have the high ceiling you’d want out of a pick that high. I don’t know if the level of the Finnish elite league is at a low point right now, but considering his production in that league this season he should have looked a lot better at the U18’s. If he is destined to be our pick I certainly hope he looks better at the World’s.
Tournaments are always interesting because they are a limited sample size. Carlsson and Fantilli didn’t dominate their respective international junior tournaments. Hell, Cronin even said he was a little anxious about Carlsson because he didn’t dominate the rookie faceoff tournament by any means. Finland seems like it hasn’t matched the development of young players as well as the USA, Canada and Sweden in recent years.
Given prior draft history, I full expect to be drafting 4th, Leshunov will be off the board and I’ll just be one giant shrug emoji about guessing who Verbeek will take
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11 minutes ago, Sexlaf15 said:
I’m pretty low on Helenius. Taking him in the top 5 would be insanity in my book, but he does keep producing everywhere he goes.
I really hope the Ducks land Demidov, but we’ll see tomorrow
I think he’d be a slight reach but I’ve felt that he is the type of forward that Verbeek would prioritize. Great defensively, strong along the boards and on his skates with good vision and playmaking ability. He’s also a RH shot. Even if demidov was an option and wanted to come here, I don’t think Verbeek would take him over Helenius.
I posted earlier that he’s the youngest player to make Finland’s world championship roster. Like you said, he’s produced every where that he’s been. I can easily see him being the second best forward on Verbeek’s draft board
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best news of the season.
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If they had beat the Ducks on the final day of the season, they would have played Edmonton instead of Dallas. Therefore, we helped end Vegas’ season
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The deeper I get into this draft rabbit hole my grain of salt take is that the pick will be Leshunov and if he’s gone then I think they take Helenius. Odds are we’ll be drafting 4th, in which case I think Leshunov will be off the board to likely to San Jose if they don’t get celebrini and Helenius will be our pick.
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12 hours ago, Spencer_12 said:
I’m interested to see what James Hagens looks like around this time next year. He’s already #1 for 2025, but I wonder what his hype level will end up being. He just set the record for most points at the tournament beating Kucherov’s record.
Tank for Hagens!
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8 hours ago, Sexlaf15 said:
Marner for Gibson +++
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Marner deserves to be hated by a non-Anaheim franchise.
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23 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
Hasn't New Jersey been linked to Markstrom? That's what I've heard. New Jersey spending $12M the next two years is cheaper than them spending $18.8M for Gibson who has been declining.
I would say the goalie pecking order now is Ullmark, Saros and Markstrom. Maybe they all get traded or none. It's going to take a specific situation to move Gibson hence my three way trade proposal. I don't know what we could get in return. I would have to figure this would have to happen this summer since Blake is probably in the hot seat over the PLD trade and Dubas is probably answering questions over why the Pens have missed the playoffs.
Yeah, markstrom was more linked than Gibson during the season. New Jersey was just thirsty for goaltending and ultimately traded for Brian Allen who is a year younger. I think a couple goalies get moved especially Ullmark. He reportedly rejected a trade (rumored to LA) because he didn’t want to relocate too far.
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50 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
He has been tradeable but it's reported that Verbeek wanted a certain astronomical return for him. So I guess the game plan is to let him run out his contract and get nothing for him. Because getting nothing for him is better than not getting the return you wanted.
I don’t think Gibson is walking for nothing barring a serious injury. We know that Gibson was linked to the Devils earlier this year but there was nothing reported on any offers plus such trades are so much harder to make in-season.
In recent history, goalies just don’t command astronomical returns in trades so what would be the definition of astronomical? A first round pick and a meh prospect? A second and a better prospect? Verbeek can’t ask for the moon which he won’t get but also isn’t going to dump Gibson to a goalie a desperate team for peanuts when he’s giving Dostal time to see if he’s the heir apparent.
Who knows, maybe New Jersey kicks the tires again soon if they are still interested. Maybe they are spooked on markstrom with his age and coming off a bad season or don’t want to pay more for Saros while also having to sign him to a longer extension. Maybe Verbeek has more confidence in Dostal to make a move. I don’t think it will happen, but it’s still ok if it does not.
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36 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
So when Gibson becomes untradeable in three seasons because he becomes progressively worse with no one wanting him, there will be cheers on this board that he walks into free agency?
In a perfect world where the salary cap isn't an issue for Boston, they would keep both Ullmark and Swayman. Why would they not want both of them. Ullmark is a cap casualty. About Andresen vs Gibson: there were plenty here wanting to keep Andersen over Gibson including myself. That was a Ducks decision to keep the younger guy.
It's ironic now that Verbeek wants a top 6 RW when he already had one in Rakell. He wasn't forced to trade him. Did he even offer an extension? Same with Manson. Or were those knee jerk decisions?
How tradable is Gibson now when a team would be taking on more term and salary? It's a risk but the Ducks have two years to see how it plays out. If Verbeek adds the pieces he says that he wants and the young players continue to get better than Gibson and Dostal are in a better position to succeed. If Gibson is still untradable and walks to free agency then I don't see there being an outrage over that. No one was too upset when Silfverberg wasn't traded at the TDL. It was what it was
Trading Andersen was the right move. Every GM in the same position is taking the younger goalie with more team control and upside when you have to ultimately make the choice.
I don't think it's ironic, Verbeek needed assets for the rebuild and traded pending UFAs. I think there is an assumption that the UFAs wanted to stay in Anaheim and would have signed the same contracts that they ultimately did. Say Verbeek brings in a RW that he otherwise wouldn't have because he re-signed Rakell, we would have that RW but also Tristan Luneau who we got with the 2nd round pick in the Rakell trade.
The Ducks were also terrible, so I doubt those guys were eager to re-sign here. I don't know why you'd bring back players at higher salaries that were part of four bad losing seasons while also being on the wrong side of the aging curve. I think the band-aid had to be ripped off
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Draft lottery today!!
in Anaheim Ducks
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Didn’t move back. C’mon first or 3rd. Dont want to waste moving up to 2nd in this draft