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  1. That’s where LTIR could come in like it did for Vegas and Tampa. I agree that they find a way to make it a non issue
  2. I think that’s the reason why he’ll bridge so that he can take capitalize on it if the Ducks don’t give him what he wants. Matthews signs for 5 years so that he can hit UFA status ASAP and take a bigger part of an increased cap. Zegras isn’t better than Hughes but Zegras may have learned from Hughes to not leave millions on the table.
  3. With the cap going up I think it works out and I don’t think him making two mil more derails the devils. That team is loaded to be really good for a while and should be a cup favorite for the future. The Meier contract is the one they could have buyers remorse for
  4. I don’t see how wingers like Caufield or a Boldy would be a comp for Zegras. Norris, Cozens and Hughes seem like those guys and Zegras was as a Calder finalist. If he signed the Hughes deal the people will criticize it as him being overpaid because of what Hughes did after signing. If we got him for the Caufield deal then Verbeek is a wizard but I think we all know it’s not happening 😕
  5. They would take them but they also won’t be offered. I don’t think Zegras signs long term for under 8.4 mil aav. I thought he’d take the Hughes deal maybe slight more but I doubt that he does. Like Gorb said, he saw Hughes leave a ton of money on the table by signing early. If Hughes had just waited to sign after his ELC was up then he’d be at 9. Now, he’d command over 10. I’d love for him to sign the Hughes deal but Hughes signed early after coming back from injury when he didn’t have to. He popped off right after that. Probably also helped that his brother is playing with him in New Jersey. Zegras playing on the worst team in hockey and still putting up 60 points would likely help his case imo Yep. Agreed. Then we can all suffer crippling anxiety waiting to see if he Tkachuk’s us
  6. Murray was put on LTIR for the season. Problem solved!
  7. Yeah, Aho is very good and is also on one of the best teams in the NHL over that stretch to help him. With Zegras, my point and belief is that he’s going to sign a bridge deal because the Ducks aren’t going to offer him enough for him to sign max-term. With the cap rising soon, he probably wants to make sure that he’s getting in on that action. What is the max aav that you would offer him on an 8 year deal? I’m more concerned on a bridge deal with him because I fear him wanting out of town at the end of it a la Tkachuk. I thought Cronin said he wants to also make sure that he doesn’t stifle Zegras offensively while improving his defense. Which is great. TBH, Verbeek is loading up more on defensive forwards in Gaucher and Myatovich than he is actual scoring talent. Right now that’s what we need points from Zegras more than anything
  8. Aho just got 8 x 9.75 after coming off a 67 point season and is just under a point per game player over the last 5 years. Zegras being four years younger wouldn’t make him wanting close to 9 all that crazy, especially to him. If the Ducks don’t offer him that then across the bridge we go!
  9. Which is why I think he’ll sign a bridge deal and bet on himself while keeping flexibility to possibly ask out Anaheim. IMO it’s going to cost a premium to sign him for 8 years and Zegras is completely fine with not signing long term unless he gets that
  10. If he wants to stay long term then I think you’re looking closer to the 9 range. At this point, I don’t think there’s any chance he’s taking the Jack Hughes deal or less than 8.5 aav. If he wants to stay and the Ducks don’t give him what he wants then he seems like he’d be perfectly fine betting on himself to make more money long term with a bridge deal. I think that’s what will happen
  11. What’s a decent AAV though? Say Zegras wants no less than 9? Do you give it to him assuming he wants to stay long term?
  12. The more I think about it, the more I think Zegras gets bridged and follows the Tkachuk/Pettersson path. gut feeling is that he bets on himself for when the cap increases or keep his options open if the rebuild doesn’t pan out
  13. Bergeron retired. Hope Boston blew their last good chance at a cup and are on their way to being basement dwellers
  14. The good this is that don’t think Terry is getting near the 8 range or over it from any team. If he had had another 35 goal season this past year then he’s flirting with that price tag imo or even if he had a 70 point season. The goal drop off is going prevent him from getting elite money. I’d be shocked if he turned down a roughly 50 million dollar contract. Terry is 7 years younger than killorn and score 20 more points per season than killorn did at the same age. I’m still betting him getting Kyle Connor type money (7 x 7.1 ) McTavish would have to improve very dramatically to command a 8 x 9 banger of a deal. We’re talking something along the lines of 70 point seasons. That’s such a tall order. If he does that then oh man are we going much closer to thumping the Kings again and being a premier team in the west than I expected Killorn and Gudas are mostly sheperds for the young guys coming up imo. If they can do that and develop a contending core then they will be worth every penny.
  15. Verbeek just overpaid for Killorn so it’s going to be pretty bad optics and messaging if he doesn’t give Terry a commensurate bag, especially if he’s going to be a part of the leadership group imo. 6.75 mil aav for Terry would be great for the Ducks but I think he’s going to want closer to 7 if not a shade over it. That’s fine, there is no looming cap issue because of Terry unless our prospect group ends up being spectacular. Henrique, Silfverberg will be off the books after this season and so may Gibson. Guys needing new deals are lining up with expiring contracts also. Gudas will be off the books when Mintyukov needs a new deal. Killorn could be off the books when Carlsson does. So, nothing is financially stopping the Ducks from bringing in outside help before factoring a cap ceiling increase. Drysdale has more pressure than any player next season imo if he wants a chance at a considerable contract that will impact the cap.
  16. He's played in only 23 NHL games and goaltending is a weird position that is the least linear in terms of progression. Far more likely for peaks and valleys before you hopefully have a NHL caliber teddy. If he struggles and goes down to SD then he's still going to get paid well for the AHL while he develops.
  17. Ducks have missed the playoffs for five years but you make it seem like Gibson is mostly responsible for it. Not having stars like Getzlaf, Perry and Kesler age, decline and have career ending injuries, or a terrible GM that waiting too long to start a rebuild or a coach that while great interpersonally was bad at actual bench and lineup decisions. The Ducks defense was particularly gutted even prior to moving Manson and Lindholm. It was the Ducks turn to go through a rebuild and not goaltender was going to prevent it. If Gibson is still on the team next year then our goaltending will still be fine despite what his contract is. You're not brining in a better start than him. The Ducks aren't winning jack s*** next year either and if he can usher Dostal towards being the future #1 in net then that is perfectly fine.
  18. If you’re offersheeting him that doesn’t involve a first round pick then I’m open to that. So, 4.2 mil aav would be fine Yeah, if we can get Lafreniere at a low value then I’ll take a flier on him. 4 mil a season and is cool with me. I don’t get the interest in a offersheeting him where our 2024 first round pick goes to NYR. I’m interested in him at less than that. If the Ducks were coming off a stronger season then it becomes more feasible imo as well as in a trade
  19. I don’t get the interest in Lafreniere unless you get him for dirt cheap like a 2nd and another mid round pick which NYR probably isn’t doing
  20. Tell that to the sharks and senators who never thought they’d lose top-4 picks after playoff seasons. Our 2024 pick should still be off the table until we see where it ends up being. That’s also a huge over payment for Keller after what Fiala and DeBrincat went for
  21. I think Detroit is more interesting since they haven’t really even sniffed the playoffs while LA has made it in back to back seasons. I’m surprised that DeBrincat left money on the table like that but I don’t think what the Ducks offered mattered if he wouldn’t sign here. Also, I don’t think that Verbeek was putting a first round pick in play (even a conditional one) which are likely more valuable than Detroit’s. Sounds like DeBrincat wanted to go home and take a risk to cash in more once the cap jumps
  22. I don’t think DeBrincat is going to affect Terry’s value because DeBrincat is going to command significantly more based on production and reputation. Terry has back to back 60 point seasons where he also had a 14 goal dip. I think we talked about it’s last year where he’s probably looking at a 7/8 year deal that pays him just north of 7 mil aav. (Kyle Connor was the comp). I still think that is where he’ll end up while becoming integral to the leadership of the group going forward.
  23. PLD got too much money also even for being a good defensive center. He’s the second best center on his team and is getting paid 1C money. He’s also got 3 wingers who can get 30 goals in LA so they aren’t really as reliant on him to score, imo. I don’t think his contract is good. Weren’t the reports that GM’s see Debrincat’s value similar to Bratt’s as far a contract? I think going 8x8 for DeBrincat would be fine but he’s not a noticeably better player than Bratt or Fiala imo. If he’s not producing offensively, then it’s a problem since you’re not getting anything defensively. If the Ducks were a defensively stout team then I think it matters less but we need that area overhauled
  24. I think his ceiling is 9 assuming he puts up 40 goals this year. Agree that no team is giving him 10. Giving 5’8 winger that much money especially when he can’t defend at all would be a problem imo. If he gets in the playoffs and goes cold then it’s an even bigger problem
  25. Not with the current defense and if Gibson gets traded imo. Debrincat needs to be a baseline 35 goal guy at 8 mil a year with the ducks not giving up one their top-3 defensive prospects to get him. There’s little room for us to get extra value from him unless he’s putting up 45+ goals.
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