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8 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
not a comforting quote from Cronin. Just apply the same standard to the vets *cought Vatrano* rather than making an example of Zegras. Good way to reall p*** off a player who is more vital to the future of the franchise than you are.
Extrapolating its
“yes we treat Zegras to a higher standard than anyone else”
and “it’s because we believe his personality could be used as a leader and we don’t feel like it has been”
that’s my reading of this. I think it’s stupid, but I can see at least a train of thought
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
Thirteen years ago. The quality of competition might have been better back then.
Ah I understand. I don’t really know if there’s a way to prove one way or the other.
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Didn’t know where else to post this and didnt want to start a new thread.
I watch Tampa Bay play their games and they almost everything the Ducks do that get them called for penalties, so I looked and Tampa has taken 96!?!?!?!? Less minor penalties this season. There is absolutely not shot the Lighting commit that many less penalties than the Ducks.
I complain in GDT’s but I don’t actually think there’s some hit on the Ducks generally speaking, but that blows my mind. I would love to know if it’s just less obvious, they work the refs (which they do virtually every single chance they get) better. I totally see why Verbeek wanted this team to play the way they do, it worked in Tampa and continues to work in Tampa.
Before Sas comments, I agree that what they get called for are penalties, but that’s just how how the game is called, they don’t call it to the letter of the rule book, it’s jury vibes based.
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Charlie Elick screams Ducks. 6’3 RHD, loves to hurt people and has talent and creativity to try stuff
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On 4/3/2024 at 12:48 PM, perry_mvp said:
Kucherov draft year MHL 47GP 27G 31A 58pts
Demidov draft year MHL 30GP 23G 37A 60pts
Michkov draft year KHL 27GP 9G 11A 20pts
Demidov is obviously talented but he's only played 4 KHL games this season with 0 points. I would rather compare Demidov to Michkov than to Kucherov.
I don’t know that I understand your point? Kucherov is an example of a guy playing in Russian juniors.
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44 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
Unfortunately, we wont see how he stacks up against his peers in international competition. The MHL isn't exactly good.
For comparison he’s blown Nikita Kucherov’s numbers out of the water when they played in the same league. I really dislike the KHL, but talent is talent
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2 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:
He'll be on a 25-goal pace next season at the TDL playing next to McTavish and he'll be available for $1.825M after Verbeek retains half. Still plenty of value there.
And I think you're expecting too much of Gauthier in his rookie season. He's more likely to match Kyle Connor's rookie season in the NHL than Jack Eichel's. Show some patience with him.
I am patient, but I’m not going to put Vatrano in places that Gauthier could be learning in. The ducks need to win, they don’t need to make the playoffs year, but they need the take a significant step. Nothing that Vatrano brings back by being a 25 goal scorer compared to a 20 goal scorer and on the third line, is relevant to this teams success. They’ll have an entire top 6 of young, nhl ready, blue chip prospects, a top 5 pick this year. At least 2 very good defensive blue line prospects maybe more. This isn’t, a late first round pick should not be relevant and I am not prioritizing getting one over development. If Vatrano out performs Gauthier, then so be it, but I’m putting Gauthier in every position to succeed.
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Frankly the time to maximize Vatrano’s value is gone. If he plays this way next season he’s a bottom six player, I’m not sacrificing Gauthier to try and get more value at the TDL
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
Yeah but that "taking a swing" approach in the past has gotten us Sam Steel, Brayden Tracey, Jacob Perreault and Nathan Gaucher.
Quite honestly, I think the best use of the second 1st rounder should be put towards trading for a legit top 6 RW. I think we have enough forward talent in the system with last years picks to make up for the slack in the bottom six. Getting that top 6 RW is what Anaheim really needs.
We can make our arguments as to who we would like to be selected but I would be shocked and bewildered if Verbeek actually makes selections with the late first rounder, the two 2nd rounders and the three 3rd rounders.
Nothing about Gaucher or Tracey were swings. They were low upside picks at the time Gaucher is figuring it out it seems in San Diego so there’s some time for him to be a depth piece. Perrault is closer to what I like, it didn’t work, but taking a guy with tools to really good rather than some journeyman 4th liner is more my style.
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7 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
I would expect Letourneau to dominate at lower levels simply because of his size. It is interesting that he's going to BC however I could see him being converted to a defenseman.
Sennecke I think goes higher than his ranking.
I agree about Hage. There was buzz about him at the start of the season.
The other two, never heard of them before.
It's a potluck draft though. After Celebrini I would consider your pick an organizational need. With Luneau's knee problems, Warren's physical problems and the uncertainty with Ian Moore, I could see a re-stocking of RD's.
I could see a d restock. Ducks are in an interesting spot, all their interesting forward prospects are on the team or will be by end of year. You mostly have your top 6 mostly set
Carlsson
Zegras
McTavish
Gauthier
Terry
you still have a decent bevy of D prospects, while also having Luneau, Mintyukov and Zellweger playing games this year. You also have Lacombe, Helleson as bubble guys.
I think they’re relatively free to just choose who they view as BPA with that top 5 pick. I think that’s Demidov after Celebrini.
My personal approach to having a second 1st is to take a swing, you got your highly touted “sure” thing, now take a big swing on a development guy. I look at Letourneau and see such a massive upside that a lot of guys in that range don’t have, but possibly a much lower floor. I say take that swing and then you have your early second rounder to nab your Gaucher/Myatovic types. But obviously don’t run the Ducks so, there’s that.
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Here’s some blurbs from an EP mock draft done earlier this season
on Dean Letourneau mocked at 22nd overall
The 17-year-old stands 6-foot-7 and absolutely dominates the lower-level competition. But it’s his size, skating, and raw set of tools that has scouts intrigued.
on Emil Hemming mocked at 20th overall
The 17-year-old is a power forward in the making. His inclusion on the Finnish World Junior roster at his age spoke volumes to the details and structure to his game. More of an energy-line future than someone who will drive his own offence.
on Beckett Sennecke mocked at 24th overall
This kid is as slippery as an eel out on the ice. Just when you think you have him boxed out and off balance, he’ll find an edge, cut in and somehow manage to bring the puck with him. Beckett Sennecke is a high-level distributor as well and can mix in a bit of nasty when pushed.
on Miguel Marques mocked at 26th overall (where they had EDM picking)
Marques is all about maximizing every play. His engine never stops but he’s more than simply an energy player. He can handle the puck, draw defenders and make plays under duress. He’s a riser.
on some others I likeIgor Chernyshov (I know, Russian) has split his season between the MHL and KHL and has been equally impressive in both situations. As a high-octane offensive driver in junior and a more north-south, power game in the pros
Michael Hage was looked at as a possible early first-rounder before the season began but started out slowly – likely due to an injury that robbed much of his D-1 campaign. He’s been looking more like his old self of late
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23 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
I'm just trying to say his stats and play might be misleading because his competition is not very good and the league he's in is obscure. He's not in the CHL. History is also against the Ducks with late round forward picks and if this kid needs a top notch development program, Anaheim has obviously failed in that regard.
Unless you have the intention of turning him into a defenseman like Brent Burns, I wouldn't interested especially with this Cronin defense. These are my first three picks:
Levshunov RD (even though I don't like him much) - Konsta Helenius (if Verbeek trades down)
2nd 1st rd pick EJ Emery RD - Emil Hemming RW
1st 2nd rd pick Maxim Masse RW - Dominik Badinka RD
For a late 2nd round pick:
Teddy Stiga LW - Justin Poirier RW
I can dig Emil Hemming. I’m not an NhL scout so I don’t know all the factors about about prep school leagues, but I do know the Ducks have picked from those leagues before. I believe Ian Moore, Kyle Kukkonnen were selected from school. Letourneau is a BC commit, BC is a very strong program obviously. That gives me some sign that he he’s turned some heads in places that are worth listening to. He averaged over 2 points per game, he’s 6’7. Worth paying attention to is all I’m saying. I’m not remotely interested in Emery personally
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3 hours ago, perry_mvp said:
He's playing in a no nothing league though. The best player in the world is only only 6' 1".
You’re not drafting the best player in the world at like 26 my man. Just an insane way to think about a late first rounder. We harped on Verbeek for taking high floor, low ceiling guys. I’m not a “size is everything” type guy, but you see 6’7 with good skills, soft hands and good skating and you should look a little harder. Anyone you’re taking late in the first is a project.
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This board is infuriating to talk to about hockey sometimes lol. Has to be one of the few places you can point at a 6’7 forward with damn good skills as a prospect and people don’t get even remotely interested
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I’ve been looking into options with the second first
Dean Letourneau stands out
6’7” 210lbs Center
slick hands, gets to the front of the net, decent skater. He’s ranked generally 20-40 range. Probably a project, but man Tage Thompson 2.0 vibes
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12 hours ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Ducks have been extremely good with defensemen, even guys who went on to other teams that we all know too well. They've been phenomenal with goaltending. Our forward picks have been been generally terrible with the exceptions of Rakell, Terry, Karlsson (who became good when he went to Vegas). My issue has been the Tracey's, Perreault's, Gaucher's, Steel's, Jones, Ritchie, Holland, Etem, Comtois, Morand et al. IMO, that's why the Ducks crashed and burned so hard after Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler. They lacked legit forwards and we only started getting better ones because we have been drafting in the top-10 and traded for Gauthier. You're then banking on all your top picks to be studs or impact players because your subsequent picks don't give you much room for error.
Hasn't our biggest problem been that we can not generate puck possession, shots and goals?
I do wonder if we could do hit rates for mid to late first round picks for every team, I do wonder if it’s a Ducks problem
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16 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
Meh, I'm not really sold on him. He's either going to be good or he's going to be the next Brett Leason. BTW, Leason had 89 points in his draft year but still ended up being picked in the 2nd round. Size isn't the end all to be all and I've seen quite a few videos of Lindstrom lacking in hockey IQ.
That’s why you take a look at how they’re producing. It’s the combination of size and skills and what he does with it. I’m not sold on him over Demidov personally, but the raw tools are super enticing
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11 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
They do, but it doesn't mean jack s*** if they can't develop guys (especially forwards) which recent history hasn't been kind to them.
You can say that about every prospect ever. Mintyukov and Zellweger have been great. Zegras has been great. McTavish has been solid. Carlsson has been as advertised? Dostal has been coming into his own. I don’t think the Ducks have been that bad at developing players
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19 minutes ago, BombaysTripleDeke said:
Not bad. It’s also a move that is much harder to transition to the NHL against NHL defenders. Hes got the raw tools that Verbeek seems to focus on. I still think Verbeek is targeting Leshunov and it gets interesting if he values the next best RHD over a forward like Lindstrom
I think the Ducks in general love their raw, toolsy, physically developing guys. Lindstrom has the Ducks written all over them
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31 minutes ago, perry_mvp said:
It depends on how much of a hometown discount he'll take. He's still very much productive and losing him will make the Lightning worse. Also keep in mind, Tampa always finds a way to skirt the cap.
Maybe in season, but they’ve pretty consistently lost meaningful players to FA since their cups. We’re paying one right now. 2 years 7 million for Stamkos or something like that, wouldn’t be awful. I am wary of continuing to add aging assets, but he scores goals
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1 hour ago, perry_mvp said:
Nah. I'm pretty sure Stamkos wants to retire a Lightning. I think the only disqualifier with Stamkos is that he's not useless. Verbeek loves useless players.
Kind of feels like he would have resigned already if it were that simple. I’m sure Stamkos wants to return, but it doesn’t sound mutual. So I do really think there’s a decent chance Stamkos is a Duck next year
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I’m not really sure what to make of Zetterlund, he has 29 career goals and 29 of them are this year. This being his first full season and he’s kind of the guy on that team right now. Age is decent, and if he settles into a 10-15 goal 30-40 point middle six guy, wouldn’t hate it, I think the proposed trade is rich for my blood, but he’s not a player I would hate adding.
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Please scout me some players here. lol I swear man, what’re you even looking for in a late first round pick lol