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26 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
He is an impact player who had his best games ever before he got injured. Let him rest, recover, recuperate, so when playoffs start, he'll lead our team to the Conference Finals
Conference finals?!
Stanley cup or bust!!!!
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8 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
No, he has to go back to Peterborough.
Too bad. It would have been perfect for him to go to the ahl for this season.
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I'm beginning to think we need to send McT down. He's eligible for the ahl right? There's no point in having him play in this environment and a throw away season. Let him get more ice time and develop more.
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6 hours ago, FanSince1993 said:
Gibson is a terrific goaltender. One of the best in the league, if not the best. In fact, second best in decade after Dominic Hasek. He just need a better defense in front of him.
Nobody said he was the best. But you honestly can't believe there's a goaltender out there, past or present, that would carry this team. Let's take Lundquist as an example, because he mentioned that Gibby had a flaw in the way he moved laterally, was he a perfect goalie? No. Otherwise the Rangers would have won the cup every year he was a goalie. What about past goaltenders who were really good but never won the cup? Is it because the goaltender was bad? Or perhaps it's because this is a TEAM game. If the team is a dumpster fire I don't care if you're Hasek or Tretiak, you're not going to win. It's the same reason why teams that lack superstars but play a solid compete game beat teams who have a bunch of superstars but play individually. Look at team Finland, for the longest time you wouldn't recognize players because they're not big international names but they play solid hockey and medal precisely because they play good systems and play as a team. We currently have none of those things. So I'm not sure why complain about Gibson being the problem when the team in front of him isn't playing nhl hockey.
Take the Avs this past season. They won it all despite having a goalie who isn't considered elite. Why? Because the team in front of him covered the flaws of their goalie. The defense played well.... defense. Cleared pucks from the net so the opposing teams didn't have multiple unimpeded attempts to score. Limited high danger shots. Prevented guys from just walking into prime scoring chances. Effectively breaking and limiting breakaways. Actually made teams work to try to get into their zone rather than just holding the door open like gentlemen like what we do. Awareness in the d zone of where guys are. Idk like what nhl teams are supposed to do.
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4 hours ago, Ice_Attack said:
Thread title says it all.... Fire them.
I think it's a little premature to call out the gm but 100% agree on the coaching staff. I'm honestly still a bit surprised we kept them. I understand why we did but this result was kind of visible from a mile away.
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24 minutes ago, Aksun said:
I never thought it would get to that this season, but here we are...I'm at a loss of words. Just removing Eakins won't solve all our problems, I'm afraid...
It would be a good start though.
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If only we could get a hold of one of the Hughes brothers lol
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1 minute ago, tommer-1 said:
"Yes, operator, Dylan Strome's home, please."
That could work but unfortunately we could have gotten him this ufa period and we weren't able to....
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13 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
Here's the thing that plays into getting good UFAs - not counting the fact that there are less than one for every other team this coming offseason.
The "F" part. Free.
Artemi Panarin and Adam Fox were both only every going to play for ONE team - the New York Rangers. So in the span of just two years, the Rangers draft Lafreniere #1 OA (2020), Kakko #2 OA (2019), and simply "invite" Panarin (2019) and Fox (2019) onto their roster.
The Ducks will never be in that position.
Only if we 'invite' one brother to get another better one....
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23 minutes ago, Gorbachav55 said:
I don't think Lindholm is going to age as well as you think he will or that cap problems will all be a thing of the past in five years. By the time the team is making the playoffs, he'll be a 2nd pairing guy.
As I've consistently maintained, I was comfortable either way. Had we retained him, it would have solved a temporary problem (that's not REALLY a problem when the team isn't trying to compete) but potentially created a long-term one. By not retaining him, Verbeek will have to work harder and get more creative to solve that problem in the next couple of years. But I do think it's a problem that can be solved. Guys who can do what Lindholm can do aren't nearly as rare as true #1 guys.
Actually I think he will age fine. He does have an injury history though. However, let's not forget that he was one of the most conditioned athletes at the combine compared to his peers. If I recall correctly, they really liked his endurance. He's a guy you could play a lot and I think as he ages his overall game will compensate for the age curve because he's such a good athlete. Obviously injuries becomes a big problem and you can definitely say that's a process of aging.
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20 hours ago, Belarus said:
Leadership, lack of leadership, no leadership. former leadership...
Sparked a question in my head - Who do you think was/is the best Ducks leader of all time?
I still think Scotty was the best pure leader we ever had with Getzy close. It made me remember about another guy we had, Saku Koivu. One of my favorite Ducks of all time. He was definitely a leader and someone we considered along with Getzy at the time. At the time there were a lot of questions with Getzy being able to captain this team but in the end he ended up being one of the team's best captains. I still miss him on this team. We'd be in much better shape with him around... I'm not saying we'd get more wins but he'd definitely help calm things down.
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3 hours ago, tommer-1 said:
A new HC is imperative to get the culture turned around.
Next year's UFA class is VERY shallow, with about 12 guys league-wide fitting in with the Duck's needs and time frame. And that's counting guys who will not be leaving their current teams and would not come for a rebuild - Pastrnak and Larkin. I guess they could throw stupid money at them, because they have the cap space. But I don't see those guys leaving their current teams.
Bo Horvat
Pavel Zacha
Tie Domi
Matt Dumba
Jonathan Drouin
Damon Severson
Jason Zucker
Carson Soucy
Ryan O'Reilly
Vladimir Tarasenko
That's it. Like I said, VERY shallow. Quality, young UFA's are getting tougher to come by, because teams are locking up their good young players past those 27-28 year marks. buying up UFA years. What the Ducks will most likely do with Zegras, Terry, Drysdale (maybe), McTavish.
I would sign O'Reilly. He's one of the last of those old school hard nose players like Getzy. But you're right, that isn't very appealing.
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52 minutes ago, tommer-1 said:
Btw, I think signing Strome and Vatrano and Klingberg and Kulikov were good moves to bridge the gap with some "glue" guys, either for one year or three or five. Their next foray into the UFA battlefield needs to be impactful.
I agree. The moves made were good. Maybe we could have done more to use our cap space but perhaps there weren't any deals that we could make. Though others were able to. But for this year I think it was decent. Though it seems the loss of some of our ufas ended up being more than we thought. Plus the retirement of Getzy and you have a team seemingly worse than last year. I still think we need to move on from Eakins though as soon as possible.
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43 minutes ago, Fisix said:
While I love FrenchyD, if our locker room chemistry depends mostly on his presence, we’re in bigger trouble than losing 5 or 10 games in a row.
Strome has been a good support guy, but a leader? The other guys… they’re reclamation projects, not team leaders. They don’t know themselves well enough to lead others.
The silly take? At least when BM bought an overpriced aged burnt-out too-slow defenseman who didn’t know how to defend anymore, it was for less than $7M/year. 🤪
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I agree. He also just wasn't very good for us. But I did notice his enthusiasm after games where players come up to congratulate the goalie/ team. However, I'm still glad he's moved on so Eakins can stop using him and Grant to shut down the McDavids.
I think Getzy just left that big of a void. He meant more to this team than any other player we had. It's a shame we couldn't of had him transition to somebody of the same ilk. Scotty and Getzy were some of the best captains in the league and we just had it so good for the past decade+. Hopefully Z, Terry or McT will grow into those roles.
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1 hour ago, Belarus said:
I was chuckling while thinking about the posters in this thread as I heard the Ducks announcers gushing over how amazing Fowler was doing tonight against the Bruins. 😏
Haha I thought the exact same thing!
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5 minutes ago, ChopSuey said:
Barry Trotz come on down!!!
I second this. Personally would be nice to see guys step up their defensive game.
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3 hours ago, MrCarr2u said:
Cam Fowler needs to GO!!! We pay too much for little results. No hustle no hit no heart. The guy looks beat every game. He turns the puck over more than he has points. We should trade or pay out his contract - he’s Killing Me Smalls!!!!
I get it but the problem is we haven't had a #1 defenseman for quite some time now. Fowler is OUR #1 currently and has been 1-2 with Lindholm, who is also not a #1. What do you expect? Ideally he should be 3-4 but who's going to replace him? If we replace him with Zellweger as you mention the team will go on a nosedive so big we'd be guaranteed to be last. It's not his fault the team gave him that contract then saddled him with some terrible D partners. Get him someone that complements his game. Gudbranson was a pretty good partner for him.
I've been thinking, what this team needs is a Beauchemin type of defenseman. He'd do wonders for this d corps. Anyone have any ideas on who's available that would be similar?
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I'm beginning to think the team is tuning the coaching staff out. I can't say for sure but it just seems kind of strange that we play so apathetic. I wouldn't blame Gibson if he asked for a trade request already. Two games and he's pulled without finishing. I can't see anyone being happy right now and the season has only just started.
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1 hour ago, Fisix said:
it's like you guys don't know that the night after we beat Seattle, they beat the Kings 4-1.
we look like Dehydrated Donkey Dung. it's the second game of the season, and half the team, more than half? are completely new. the lines are all new, AND they're being shuffled.
you guys love shooting fish in a barrel. leave the minnows alone, for at least a month.
calm down. enjoy the suck, then enjoy the inevitable movement upwards.
if you want to complain, complain that Pond beer went up another 50 cents or more over the break, to $19.50.
I get it that it's early and it's not like we're historically pretty bad to start the season (usually). But just watching this team play what looks like hockey, but I'm not so sure, is kind of disappointing. You'd think we could at least resemble some kind of team structure but we look like a jumbled mess. I'm willing to give them more time and I was actually kind of hoping we'd get blown out of the water for two reasons:
1. Guys would actually wake up after an embarrassing start to the season.
2. Would highlight all the deficiencies of Eakins systems. I'd like to see him gone. I've never soured on a coach this fast before. I've even defended RC for longer. But what we've seen the past couple of years is just... well you can see for yourself.
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57 minutes ago, FanSince1993 said:
I am advocating for a few years now to move on from some softies who has been in our defensive corps for many years. That guy who was expected to be our new Scott Neidermayer, have been a symbol of mediocracy for more than a decade now. I never forget 2015 Conference finals, game 6 when Anaheim could close the series and move to the finals. Patrick Kane slicing thru him time after time after time and scoring 2 quick goals. Chicago wins the game and then wins decisive game 7 two days later. Now, having Drysdale and Zellweger coming next season, we'll have 3 (!!!) similar-style, soft skating, smallish non-physical defenseman? Makes no sense to keep them all, regardless who will be the coach next season. Someone has to go.
Now, let's move on to our new GM. While everyone playing drums on this forum about his greatness, I have an approach "show me first what you can do". I look at cross-town rival, a Hollywood team that acquired a young, prolific, proven scorer Kevin Fiala for draft picks; he will be scoring multiple goals against our team for the next 7 years. The same amount of money PV spent on Vatrano (after getting rid of Milano, a redundant move in IMHO, but hopefully I am wrong) + a generous contract for Ryan Strome, who by the age 29 for the first time ever scored a whopping 21 goals last season. And selecting Mintyukov in the first round is a big question mark. I am not saying PV is not a good manager, but so far I see what I see. And extending this minor-league coach adds to the list of his questionable moves. As I mentioned here before, I don't remember any team in ANY professional sports that would extend their head coach after 3 failed seasons.
Look Cam is not perfect. If you think getting rid of Lindholm was bad what do you think our team would look like with him gone? Especially if he wasn't in the lineup for the past two games. I guarantee you that it would be a lot worse.
Cam is no Neidermayer. The argument can be made that he was rushed to the NHL. But he's still one of the best defenders on this team. Also, considering who he has been saddled with over the years I think he's been pretty good. He's had what maybe two good partners over that entire span since entering the league?
I'm defending him here because he deserves better. Is he soft? Sure but not every defenseman needs to be a tough guy. He just needs to be complemented with players who can play with him. He shouldn't have to be covering defensive mistakes for some bottom pair defenseman all the time.
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6 minutes ago, Jasoaks said:
Eakins will make it to the off-season and they will "decide to part ways" ...i do not think there is a scenario where he is extended -- beyond just completely going above and beyond expectations (like making the playoffs and winning a series). I don't think he can do anything to get himself fired
If we go on nice long losing streaks anything is possible....
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3 hours ago, dtsdlaw said:
Maybe the Ducks should find a new legendary Hall of Famer and franchise icon to help with their D-men player development?
I think I read/ heard that Scotty hasn't been as involved as you would think. Maybe it did have something to do with BM who knows. Like Gorb mentioned, I wouldn't be opposed to it if it does actually help the team.
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1 hour ago, dtsdlaw said:
For the first bolded, by who? I've seen certain fans say this, but I've never seen a source from the organization or any of the media members who specialize in evaluating prospects ever say this.
For the second bolded, guys in a farm system who seem to be good but who never turn into regular NHLers - the AHL is littered with these guys, from every organization. It's not a Ducks problem. Just look at the list of top scorers in the AHL each season. A whole lot of never-will-bes. The massive jump from the minors to the NHL doesn't get enough respect, and many, MANY guys who look good at lower levels never make it in the big show. If that's strictly an organizational development problem, then all 32 teams have the same problem. Don't believe me? Here's an example of Tampa Bay, everyone's player development darling:
2016-17: leading scorers for their AHL affiliate, the Syracuse Crunch: Cory Conacher, Matt Taormina, Yanni Gourde, Eric Condra
2017-18: Mathieu Joseph, Carter Verhaeghe, Matthew Peca, Alex Volkov
2018-19: Verhaeghe, Alex Barre-Boulet, Conacher, Andy Andreoff
2019-20: Barre-Boulet, Ross Colton, Gemel Smith, Conacher
Of those guys, Yanni Gourde eventually turned into a key contributor, but was promptly lost in the expansion draft for nothing. Ross Colton is now a very solid 3rd liner for them. Joseph is also looking like a he'll be a solid 3rd liner in the NHL, but he's doing it for the Sens, not the Lightning. Conacher and Taormina are career AHLers. Verhaeghe has turned into a solid NHLer in Florida, but he did so only AFTER Tampa let him go to UFA by not tendering a qualifying offer (so they lost him for nothing too). Barre-Boulet was claimed off waivers from Tampa by Seattle last season, and then re-claimed by Tampa a few weeks later and is now a regular for the Crunch. Peca is an AHLer now in his 4th organization. Gemel Smith was also lost to Detroit last season via waivers, but was re-claimed by Tampa when the Wings put him back on waivers. Andreoff and Condra were both in the late stages of their careers and were just hanging on in the AHL. And we all know about Ducks legend Alex Volkov.
You can do this for every organization. A few guys from almost every farm systems will make it to the big show and stick, but most guys who look good at the lower levels don't ever make it. They turn into the Andrew Poturalskis and Julius Honkas of the hockey world. That's not a development problem. It's because the NHL is an extremely hard league, and not everyone with skill is cut out for it.
Ok I concede, mainly I'm going off what was talked about/ hyped by Ducks fans. But it's not like he wasn't mentioned as someone good in the ducks depth charts. I don't have proof to back that up but he's been talked about more than Thrun for example as someone who could jump in. Besides Zellweger, Minty and Warren he was looked at as someone we could potentially slot into 5th or 6th position going forward.
Again, I'm not going to be too upset over this. It's just disappointing that we haven't hit on many good draft picks I guess.
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Hopefully not too long. I like the optimism here but I just can't get behind that. He still seems like the same coach as last year. I still think we suck badly and PV realizes he made a huge error in bringing him back.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like for him to succeed but I don't think he's a good enough coach.
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Of course you have to extend him. Also, the sun was in his eyes and he just wasn't ready yet to start the season... his shoes were untied. He slightly tweaked his foot while pushing a shopping cart. He didn't have his morning coffee. He's just not used to this particular white board yet. The other team interfered. Too much glare off Gibsons mask. The nachos he ate at the stadium made his stomach upset.
Am I forgetting anything? So yeah, he deserves another 5-10 years really.